Israel denies "hits" in Dubai


clevin

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State of Israel is getting more and more ridiculous.

It has Nuclear weapons, it assassinates people in and outside its boundary. When will people stand up and do something about it?

Blaming Iran for "nuclear operation" is so ridiculous when you intentionally play dumb with Israel's nuclear weapons. How exactly do people expect Iran to take this double standard willingly?
 

184550

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The only thing that bothers me here is their choice of passports. Surely they could have been a bit more careful and have used different passports.
 

Dmac77

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I honestly fail to see why anyone would have an issue with a Hamas leader being assassinated. Honestly, it's not like Hamas is on some peace mission, unless firing rockets into Israel is considered peaceful.

Don
 

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I honestly fail to see why anyone would have an issue with a Hamas leader being assassinated. Honestly, it's not like Hamas is on some peace mission, unless firing rockets into Israel is considered peaceful.

Don
This is the exact same logic used to reason why the States invaded Iraq. Or why the government should be allowed to snoop on your phone calls.
 

toontra

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I honestly fail to see why anyone would have an issue with an Israeli leader being assassinated. Honestly, it's not like Israel is on some peace mission, unless illegally gaining nuclear weapons, subjugating an entire population, bombing civilians and committing war crimes is considered peaceful.
Corrected that for you Don.
 

Eraserhead

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I honestly fail to see why anyone would have an issue with a Hamas leader being assassinated. Honestly, it's not like Hamas is on some peace mission, unless firing rockets into Israel is considered peaceful.

Don
a) It hasn't been carried out in Israel.
b) Because its not due-process under Israeli law.
 

Dmac77

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This is the exact same logic used to reason why the States invaded Iraq. Or why the government should be allowed to snoop on your phone calls.
How is it the same logic? I'm just saying that Hamas is recognized by many governments and organizations as a terrorist organization.

Also, the man who was assassinated was the founder of Izz ad-Din al-Qassam (the military wing of Hamas). Qassam has taken credit for attacks that have killed civilians. Also, he was a known weapons smuggler, who knows how many people died as a result of the weapons that he supplied to terrorists. I honestly think that whoever killed him did a great service to the world.

But I know a lot of people see Israel as the terrorist, so I know I'm going to take some heat for my above statement.

Also, regarding the earlier statement about Iran and the Israeli double standard, you have to remember that Israel had not threatened to nuke another country just because of the predominate religion in a country (unlike Iran).

Also, how does this relate to Iraq at all???

Don
 

MikhailT

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State of Israel is getting more and more ridiculous.

It has Nuclear weapons, it assassinates people in and outside its boundary. When will people stand up and do something about it?

Blaming Iran for "nuclear operation" is so ridiculous when you intentionally play dumb with Israel's nuclear weapons. How exactly do people expect Iran to take this double standard willingly?
You're acting like Israel is the only country. US/Russia has nuclear weapons, assassinates people all around the world all the time. They both nearly put the entire globe at risk with the Cold War.

No country is special, they all do things like this.

The only thing that bothers me here is their choice of passports. Surely they could have been a bit more careful and have used different passports.
The passports aren't Israeli. They vary all over and they don't even have real pictures or even correct passport numbers. The governments have confirmed that already. Those people who did the hits don't care about the passports being public. It's not proof of anything and it doesn't identify them.
 

MikhailT

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Seriously, why would we be such a huge supporter of them. It's not like they have oil. :rolleyes:
Because of the location and the religious connections. Israel is the only country in that area that has no fear of being allies with the US.
 

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The passports aren't Israeli. They vary all over and they don't even have real pictures or even correct passport numbers. The governments have confirmed that already. Those people who did the hits don't care about the passports being public. It's not proof of anything and it doesn't identify them.
I'm aware of that. However, on CNN at least, thats been all the talk- the fact that the passports used peoples actual names, etc... My comment was in reference to why draw more attention than neccessary to an operation like this?
 

Eraserhead

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How is it the same logic? I'm just saying that Hamas The Israeli government is recognized by many governments and organizations as a terrorist organization.
This also applies.

Also, regarding the earlier statement about Iran and the Israeli double standard, you have to remember that Israel had not threatened to nuke another country just because of the predominate religion in a country (unlike Iran).
Haven't they threatened to take action on Iran?

No country is special, they all do things like this.
I don't actually think they do. Most countries don't carry out assassinations of people in other countries.
 

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Fair enough. Though I've just Googled and it looks like you are making a similar assumption with Iran.
Assuming that Iran would use their nukes?

There is no doubt in my mind that they would use their nukes, either in a conventional sense (bomb/ missels) or unconventionally (dirty bomb/ suitcase bomb, etc...). Then there's the prospect of them selling the how-to's to other governments/ organizations.

Israel has had their nukes since when? Late 1960s, early 1970s? 40 or 50 years and they haven't used them yet. Besides, they know that if they were to use their nukes there would be choas in the Middle East. Which is why I tend to think that Iran would use their nukes unconventionally for deniability.
 

Eraserhead

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Assuming that Iran would use their nukes?

There is no doubt in my mind that they would use their nukes, either in a conventional sense (bomb/ missels) or unconventionally (dirty bomb/ suitcase bomb, etc...). Then there's the prospect of them selling the how-to's to other governments/ organizations.
Source? Given even Kim Jong Il hasn't used his.
 

Dmac77

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Corrected that for you Don.
Please don't do that. If you have a differing opinion, just say so and don't pervert what I posted. If you want to quote my post go ahead, but don't edit it.
Fair enough. Though I've just Googled and it looks like you are making a similar assumption with Iran.
I'm pretty sure it's a reasonable interpretation of the phrase "Israel must be wiped of the map".
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html

Don
 

iShater

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Assuming that Iran would use their nukes?

There is no doubt in my mind that they would use their nukes, either in a conventional sense (bomb/ missels) or unconventionally (dirty bomb/ suitcase bomb, etc...). Then there's the prospect of them selling the how-to's to other governments/ organizations.

Israel has had their nukes since when? Late 1960s, early 1970s? 40 or 50 years and they haven't used them yet. Besides, they know that if they were to use their nukes there would be choas in the Middle East. Which is why I tend to think that Iran would use their nukes unconventionally for deniability.
So because they haven't used them in 50 years that means they won't? You are putting a lot of faith in somebody else's government. Keep in mind they get enough $$ and equipment to not need to think about using it.

At the same time, you have no doubt in your mind that Iran would use it, even though they haven't attacked any other countries since their government came to power in the 70's (Unlike Israel).