It’s almost over for Hillary: This election is a mass insurrection against a rigged system

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    Brilliant analysis from Bill Curry on Salon.com. Even former Clinton staffers know the end is near for Hillary.

    Sanders has ended the coronation and fired up the grass roots. Now Clinton's electability argument is crumbling, too.

    It would be hard to overstate what Bernie Sanders has already achieved in his campaign for president, or the obstacles he’s had to surmount in order to achieve it. Not only has he turned a planned Hillary Clinton coronation into an exercise in grass-roots democracy, he’s reset the terms of the debate. We are edging closer to the national conversation we so desperately need to have. If we get there, all credit goes to Bernie.

    There is no Clinton firewall. At most, 10 states are out of Sanders’ reach and public opinion is never static. Nor does she have a better “ground game.” Real grass-roots organizations like the Working Families Party, MoveOn.org and Democracy for America let members guide endorsements. (Sanders’ support in each of those groups was at or above 85 percent) Such groups are building the movement Sanders speaks of in every speech.
     
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    In other news, Hillary still leads Sanders in the national polls. But you know, those are irrelevant since Hillary is still ahead. /s
     
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    Sanders has a good shot at the nomination, but I think it's being overly optimistic to say that it's almost over. Clinton has more of the voters that are likely to turn out, and she has a lot of overall support still among the Democratic Party that gives her a good chance of getting to the nomination. I don't think she has a great chance in the general election other than possibly against someone like Trump.
     
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    Bernie supporters will be busy posting in threads and youtube comments while Hilary supporters will make it to the booths.
     
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    You mean stalls.
     
  7. nfl46 macrumors 603

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    Preach!

    Wait until tonight when he wins NH! OMG! They will have a field day with this one..."Hillary is doomed. Hillary is panicking. Hillary campaign is over! Everyone is feeling the Bern!"

    Us Hillary supporters are like...if you can't win your neighboring state, then something is clearly wrong.


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    Hillary's had a hard time making it to the white house, first Obama in 2008 and now Bernie, in both cases she was the presumptive nominee and has fallen to a populist candidate. In the same way, Trump has the same appeal to the Right. The title of this thread nailed it, there's a huge backlash against establishment candidates this time around.
     
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    What was Bernie's name recognition at in NH a year ago?
     
  10. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    What a joke. The first primary is in process today, the first caucus barely in the rear view. If one were a former Clinton staffer (and how did one acquire that status anyway... by getting fired?) then it's possible one might think the end is near, or even hope so, depending on how the exit interview went. Otherwise, as usual there is no reason to count chickens while they're still just eggs.

    I'm a Bernie fan but the actual primary season -- you know, at the ballot box-- is barely underway and the end is not near except possibly for a few of the underqualified or poorly funded Republicans.

    An excerpt from Politico’s Morning Shift (a labor briefing) today:

     
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    Probably the George W. Bush inauguration had something to do with it.
     
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    Ever hear of Robert Frost? "Good fences make good neighbors...."

    Reporters from the Vermont / New Hampshire area have been joking about their experience with VT-NH neighborliness. Their focus was on the idea that Sanders' popularity in NH is not due to his being a neighbor and therefore some kind of a favorite son in New Hampshire (as Hillary Clinton is said to have claimed in order to pre-spin her probable loss tonight). Actually the lack of fondness between the two states is well known if not yet legendary:

    Trent Spiner, New Hampshire Union Leader: People in New Hampshire call [Vermont] the upside down New Hampshire for a reason.

    Roger Carroll, Nashua Telegraph: There’s a lot of cross traffic in Vermont and New Hampshire in that ten to fifteen miles to the east in New Hampshire. They have no great love for Vermont. They sometimes derisively refer to it as the People’s Republic of Vermont.

    Ella Nilsen, Concord Monitor: I wanted to say, it goes the other way around. I used to be a reporter at the Keene Sentinel, on the border with Brattleboro, Vermont. And I went over to cover a bacon festival, and someone asked me how I managed to cross the border.


     
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    No, that's actually the first I've heard of this. Thanks for that!
     
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    Gridlock all over NH...Polls may be forced to extend their hours...Hillary planning to fire her entire campaign staff tomorrow morning...Could be highest NH voter turnout in history...
     
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    While we await results, this piece in the Times is pretty interesting about what's what in New Hampshire


    For instance:

    New Hampshire has an unusual system that allows voters who are not affiliated with a party to cast a ballot in either primary. Under the state’s rules, independents can basically choose to become a member of a party for just long enough to vote, and then re-register as an independent as soon as they are finished.

    The independents here are not some small cluster of voters in the middle of the electorate. They are a big, heterogeneous and potentially decisive bloc.
     
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    Feeeeeeel the Bernnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
     
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    It's not over for Hillary. Like everyone since summer of 2015 till now were reading and repeating how it's curtains for Trump, yet his band is still playing on despite the direst and most shrill predictions. Which is almost worse than Al Gore's fruitless global warming predictions that hilariously ran aground when the time clock was up.
     
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    c'mon, where do you have that from. last tweet i read said that's bull.
     
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    The New York Times. Apparently "insiders" claim a big Clinton campaign shake-up is coming tomorrow.
     
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    The tired frail old destroyer may have spent too much time and energy ruining her husbands lovers. Hanging onto the past like she has, continually defending the guy that can't keep his pants zipped, has taken its toll.

    The incessant 24/7 practice of lies and deceit, of avoiding the truth, of living the criminal life or at least doing a terrific job of emulating the thug life, has brought her to this juncture.

    It's still to early to predict her slide into the abyss, but don't be surprised if that chariot headed to the coronation suddenly makes a u turn and heads home to the barn.
     
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    So I guess you're saying Podesta would have tweeted this yesterday even if it was 100% spin.

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    That’s why Bernie won Iowa (after pro-Hillary election fraud accounted for) and is projected to win New Hampshire. When real voters vote, as they just have: Killary’s unelectable.
     
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    Clinton won Iowa, even after the recount.
     
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    Six Iowa districts were decided by coin toss and Hillary won all six. The odds of that happening are 1/64.
     
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    Yesterday


    Clinton win shrinks with new Iowa Democratic Party results, Sanders still reviewing

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/07/politics/hillary-clinton-iowa-win-shrinks/


    Washington (CNN) - The slim margin by which Hillary Clinton won the Iowa caucuses shrank even narrower after the Iowa Democratic Party said Sunday it found counting errors in five of the 14 precincts it double-checked.

    The Democratic Party announced Sunday that Clinton won 700.47 state delegate equivalents (SDEs) to Sanders' 696.92 SDEs -- a razor-thin percentage of caucus goers equal to 49.84%-49.59%.

    The party determined that Clinton lost .122 SDEs in the recounting, Sanders gained .1053 and former Maryland Gov.
    Martin O'Malley gained .0167.

    "I would like to thank the campaigns and local party leadership for working so hard on caucus night and in the following days to ensure that our results are accurate," state party Chairwoman Andy McGuire said in a statement.

    The Sanders campaign is conducting its own review of the results.

    "Iowans from every corner of the state worked countless hours on behalf of the candidate they were supporting for months leading up to caucus night," Sanders' Iowa spokeswoman Rania Batrice said Monday. "They deserve accurate results, and we are committed to continuing to work with our precinct captains until we have checked and double checked all 1,681 precincts. We look forward to working with the IDP to ensure that results are correct once we have completed this process and have a full picture."


    Day after Iowa



    Iowa: Sanders Calls For Raw Vote Count Amid Reports Of Voter Fraud And Missing Votes

    http://www.hngn.com/articles/175431...-reports-of-voter-fraud-and-missing-votes.htm

    Concerns were raised about voter fraud after C-Span released a video showing that a caucus chairperson from Polk County, the state's most populous county, and a Hillary Clinton precinct captain failed to conduct a count of the caucusgoers.

    The Sanders campaign said that the Iowa Democratic Party also failed to properly staff 90 Iowa precincts and, therefore, did not collect results, which accounted for about 5 percent of all votes cast in the state,
    reported the New York Times. The party reportedly asked the campaigns to self-report totals, which could result in disagreements over precincts that could make up the margin between Sanders and Clinton, according to the Hill.



    Shush! Election fraud is not election fraud when it favors Killary.
     

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