It's immoral to drink coffee in Iran

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    Mm to be a woman in an Islamic nation, what a treat.
     
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    Where does it say it's immoral to drink coffee in Iran?

    The raids were looking for social mixing between sexes and women wearing western style clothing. We know that's forbidden already in most parts of the Middle East.

    It's an awful life for women. But it's not forbidden to drink coffee. Pork yes. In fact they got some great espresso style coffee in those parts.
     
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    It's a shame they don't have alcohol and rampant free love over there. A drunken night followed by a damn good shag would do them the world of good.
     
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    No, it's Mormons that can't drink coffee. Get it straight.
     
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    As long as the resulting babies are raised in Islam, I don't see a down-side to this approach.
     
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    Caffeine is like kryptonite to Kolobians :D
     
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    They have rampant free love .... It's man on man and man on unwilling women
     
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    Amazing how Iran used to be such an advanced and sophisticated part of the ancient world. Then Islam happened.
     
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    It can happen anywhere. People always like to say, "Oh, society has progressed past such and such". But the truth is, it can all change in a heartbeat.
     
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    Fixed that for you.

    This would happen in a theocracy of any religion. When the laws of your country come from an ancient text, this is what happens.
     
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    Europe and the US could be so very advanced if it wasn't for religion and religious lobbying. The Stem cell restrictions under Bush were sickening. Think religious people are still beating each other with sticks in the US over abortions.
     
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    Nah, "Christian" nations have somehow managed to stay at least SOMEWHAT secular. I mean, we're secular to a point where i dont have to hear about religion on a daily basis and we at least attempt to keep church and state separate. In europe there's even more of a separation. Islam is more than a religion, it's a political institution. To deny that is naive. That's why i pick on Islam more so than other religions, i think it's well warranted.
     
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    Everything about your life in a 'Christian' nation is influenced by religion in some way. From the state of your economics to the technology at your fingertips, from the way you talk to the way you think.

    Christians have crusaded and murdered their way all over the planet to have things the way they are today.
     
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    Wrong- look at what's happening in Ukraine and Uganda- indeed, much of "Christian" Africa. Any religion is capable of this.
     
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    So would you consider it to be just pure luck that the nations of europe and the americas have managed to stay secular? I don't. Most christian nations are secular, most islamic nations are not. I agree that any religion is capable of this, but it's way more predominant in the islamic faith.
     
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    Name one 'secular' Christian nation? Only secular nations I can think of are in Asia.
     
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    Define "secular". I consider most of the American continents to be pretty damn secular, as well as the vast majority of europe.
     
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    Yes, it's pure luck. And I know of no secular "Christian" nation. For instance, the US is not a "Christian" nation. It is a secular Republic.
     
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    I don't think it's pure luck, i think it's a fundamental difference in the religions. And i agree the US is a secular republic, as is most of europe, but it can't be denied that these nations have christian roots.
     
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    No- it's a not a fundamental difference. Ever heard of dominionism?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism

    This is no different than radical Islam.
     
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    Secular means separate from religion. You shouldn't need me to define it for you, you're the one using it. No place in the West is free from religion. It's in your politics, economics, laws and social behaviour. It's even in your education system.

    If you believe that anywhere in America or Europe is secular it means you've eaten too much propaganda and it's time to go back to the drawing board.

    Does this sound familiar to you?

    America, Europe - Secular, lands of freedom
    Middle East - Theocracy, lands of oppression
    Asia - Socialist, Communists, lands of oppression

    If it does, you need to take a step back. Maybe travel a bit. The world isn't like that, not at all.
     
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    Funny how every topic criticising Islam quickly involves Christianity. As if our Christian influenced nations are shutting down coffee shops because women decided to not wear their sheets in public. The horror.
     
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    Yes, imagine Christianity coming up in a topic about religion. Funny how you you're keen to single out Islam. Prejudice much?

    They're all the same. Horrific texts of ignorance, delusion, oppression and fear.
     

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