it's white supremacy

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502a

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    interesting. I just looked at the top four mass shootings (by # of deaths)
    1) Is the El Paso shooting by a white nationalist (22 died)
    2) Is the Virginia Beach shooting by a Black individual (13 died)
    3) Is the Dayton Ohio shooting by a White leftist (10 died)
    4) is the Aurora Illinois shooting by a Black disgruntled employee (6 died)

    small sample but I don't see any correlation here.
     
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    Totals for those counting and I may be off but did my best to estimate race

    68 Black
    20 White
    1 Asian
    8 Hispanic
     
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    I genuinely don’t understand this line of argument. We should ignore certain hate crimes/domestic terror incidents because a lot of people kill people for other reasons? You don’t have to pick and try to address one and only one motivation for mass murder. We can multitask.
     
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    You shouldn't understand this. We have already seen that any problem that Obama had was Bush's fault and anyone that is happening now is Trump's fault. I am just trying to figure out if you blame this one on Bush or Trump.
     
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    So we shouldn't get rid of the white people?
     
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    At least someone got that guy a band-aid.
     
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    Every president has problems created by their predecessor that they have to deal with and every president creates problems that they leave for their successor to deal with. But what's the relevance of this to this discussion?
     
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    Where is Las Vegas? I do think it’s the top with 58 deaths.
     
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    Why did they leave 2001 out?
     
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    The relevance is that the poster will always come back to blame Bush or Trump so it is pointless for him to consider any of this unless he can somehow spin it to blame one of them.
     
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    Because they started collecting the data in 2002? Not that 2001 would have changed anything. They are counting incidents, not total homicides.
     
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    wasn't that in 2018?
     
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    Nope just the brown ones, based on these numbers...
     
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    Yep, that’s right.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised to find that the picture in the OP is purposely misleading. It just includes 100 people out of over 250 incidents.
     
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    There are approximately 857 million firearms in civilian hands in the entire world. A massive 46% of these are owned in the USA (394 million). The rest, 463 million (54%) are shared among 194 countries.

    It puts it into perspective just how many guns are concentrated in a country with less than half the population of Europe. It’s little wonder you have so many incidents and despite blame on social media, mental health, gang violence etc, none of this is exclusive to America. You are just finding excuses rather than accepting you’ve been far too careless in the past allowing the general populace to own far too many firearms.
     
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    A significant share of Trump’s base, and among the most active and enthusiastic of his supporters, are those who identify with and enthusiastically support Trump’s attacks on immigrants, foreigners and minorities. The only people spinning anything here are those trying to distract from the fact that a mass murderer, not for the first time, has cited as his reason for killing a bunch of people a message that echoes Trump’s.
     
  22. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    anyone to the left of me :p
    feel free to look up the rest
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    all those guns and murders are just .0003% of the population............
     
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    I guess no one could expect you to take the time to verify that what you post is accurate. :p
     
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    Do you consider someone who supports border security and deportation of illegal aliens (things that Barack Obama and other Democrat leaders in the past have supported) as echoing messages of hate too? Someone who strongly supports enforcing immigration laws are not per se white supremacists, haters, or terrorists.
     

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