I've Never Been So Mad: @Palin. You are Dead to me!/McCain/"terrorist","kill him" ...

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  1. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    Is this an emotional meltdown?:confused:
    It's a bit early!:eek:
     
  5. Frisco macrumors 68020

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    Palin is a racist and I wouldn't be surprised if Cain was too.
     
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    I'm not seeing it. We should be mad at Palin because one of her idiot supporters said something idiotic?
     
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    I quiver when I hear her squeaky voice

    Yes, we should be mad at Palin for throwing around gasoline (read lies) at those red hot redneck supporter.
     
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    What a ridiculous thread. It could have been anyone calling out anything at the rally. Heck all it would take is one Obama supporter to try the mischievous. There's plenty of things to berate Palin for without resorting to faux internet outrage.
     
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    No need to shut up. Just don't reduce yourselves to the level of gutter politics. There's plenty to debate intelligently.
     
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    Both McCain and Palin are left to being fairly irresponsible in their rhetoric, in order to pan for votes. The "he's not like us" line is a spectacular example that is just outright "dangerous" like a malotov cocktail through an apartment window.

    Even if unintentional... This isn't rocket science. This is gardening, and this type of campaign language is simply going to yield a bitter crop.

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    I'm under no illusions about the level of rhetoric from McCain's campaign.
     
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    There is a very legitimate question of whether, by trying to tie Obama in with domestic terrorism, Palin is endangering the safety of Obama, Ayers or both.

    The fact that this totally fictitious "link" between Obama and domestic terrorism is inciting people to anger is, I think, dangerous ground to be treading on.

    We all know Palin can't speak at times, but when she does speak, she needs to take responsibility for what she says. She can't just pop off these incendiary accusations and hope that nothing will happen. There are some awfully crazy people on the far right, and those are the people she's playing to.
     
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    this is what happens when you're losing. badly. so close to election time.

    you do anything to try to win
     
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    If, God forbid, they won't give up on this BS and something happens to obama. Whether it's fatal, injury or just close call, John and Sarah will feel my wrath. :mad:
     
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    As noted, it's more about how they're framing their argument. Linking him to terrorists and terrorism, what do they expect people who already believe these types of things to do? At one rally they're yelling "terrorist", another they yell "kill 'em", and at another they yelled a racial epitaph at a reporter's crew member who's black, saying "sit down boy". This is dangerous ground they're walking. And while, yes, they do have the rights to free speech, there is also a responsibility to free speech to not defame someone and incite hatred against them. Especially if you're a public official. They're already open to liable, and even Fox has rejected some of these negative ads, but if anything did happen to Obama...

    Apparently doctor pangloss seems to think we're the ones overreacting, but tell that to the Secret Service (no reason to worry about the first black Presidential candidate being threatened with "kill him" :rolleyes: no) and everyone who cares more about who will actually deal with the real problems facing us and don't care about some guy Obama knew who's now a Professor that has nothing to do with anything other than to try to tenuously relate him to terrorism.
     
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    Palin and McCain are fanning the flames of race and anti-muslim sentiment. That is definitely a reason to dislike them. This thread is completely valid, IMO, and the point is a damn good one. After reading tht article and watching the videos, I wanted to vomit. These are the kinds of people with whom McCain and Palin are proud to associate? And we're just supposed to sit here and say "OK"? I don't think so.
     
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    Besides, there's no more room in the gutter.
     
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    This is nothing new, and certainly nothing unique to McCain/Palin or this campaign. Didn't Adams claim Jefferson was going to destroy Christianity and replace it with prostitutes?

    I've no problem calling a spade a spade, and I know a dishonest campaign when I see one. But I'm not about to saddle the McCain/Palin campaign with the responsibility of an incredibly stupid comment made by an incredibly stupid person. I'm not suggesting the comment not be taken seriously (I'm kind of shocked we haven't heard more death threats to be honest), or that McCain/Palin aren't running a hit campaign of the lowest order. But a connection between them and few malcontents is tenuous at best, and is certainly doing very little to raise the level of discourse.
     
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    I have to respectfully disagree. The connection is there because McCain/Palin encourage these people with their actions. If one wants to raise the level of discourse and wants respect, one doesn't play to the lowest common denominator to get votes.
     
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    It would seem that the far right doesn't have a monopoly on crazy.
     
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    Nope. Never did.
     
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    That sure is a heckava source ......:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Yes...Yes...let the hate flow through you......
     

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    Don't like the source, huh? Then just watch the videos. The videos being on huffington post's website doesn't change what the people said. :rolleyes:

    I agree with Lee and Thomas Veil on this. You can't stoke the flames and then claim no responsibility when the fire gets too hot.
     

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