Jaguar to improve gaming?

Discussion in 'Games' started by Catfish, Jun 9, 2002.

  1. Catfish macrumors newbie

    Jun 3, 2002
    Memphis, TN
    I am a recent apple convert with a new Powerbook DVI 667. I was playing both Civilization III and Tropico this weekend under OS X, and in both of them when the scenarios became reasonably complex the games bogged down tremendously, becoming almost unplayable. Even with "Hardware acceleration" in Tropico it was too slow to play. This is really frustrating on a new machine; on a whim I booted into OS 9 and tried Tropico from there - the game was great - it really zoomed.

    Has anyone else had this experience? If the slowdown is OS X, does anyone know if Jaguar will improve gameplay? I've ordered another 512 meg DIMM, I suppose that will help to some extent.
  2. Catfish_Man macrumors 68030


    Sep 13, 2001
    Portland, OR
    More ram...

    ...will definitely help. Jaguar will also help. Aside from the general optimizations, you'll have QuartzGL. Also, OpenGL runs much faster in Jaguar.

    <edit> dang, now we've got two catfish on the macrumors forums...</edit>
  3. Nipsy macrumors 65816


    Jan 19, 2002
    Tropico under X just sucks!

    Very sad, as it looks like a good game, but I can't be bothered to boot into 9. I have 1.5GB of RAM, and it is still slow as molasses. I think it is just a weak port....
  4. Beej macrumors 68020


    Jan 6, 2002
    Buffy's bedroom
    I agree... very weak. Unplayable.
  5. mac15 macrumors 68040

    Dec 29, 2001
    I can't wait for the GM version of jaguar
    the beta is ok but it sucks a way......10.1 changed gaming so will 10.2 have the same impact?
  6. kiwi_the_iwik macrumors 65816


    Oct 30, 2001
    London, UK
    As long as game companies continue to write/port games in Carbon and not in Cocoa, then you're just better off playing in OS9.

    Carbon is to Cocoa what Classic is to X. Just some poor form of emulation.

    If I want to play games on the Mac, I still have to switch to OS9 as very few PLAYABLE games are available on X. The odd thing is, though, that games like Wolfenstein and Medal of Honour demand such powerful CPU's and graphics cards - perfect environments for OSX - yet they are only ported in Carbon. Why not make them exclusively X, so the masses can make the switch quicker?

    Just a thought...:)
  7. Falleron macrumors 68000


    Nov 22, 2001
    Re: Jaguar to improve gaming?

    For Civ 3, have you updated to v.1.2.1f (its new)? If you have not the update should help.
  8. Catfish thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 3, 2002
    Memphis, TN
    Re: Re: Jaguar to improve gaming?


    On a tip from a friend I checked the 'don't use quartz for text' box on startup, and the game was much much much faster. Zippy even. So in this sense, I suppose Jaguar will improve the speed for quartz and therefore games that use it.

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