James Comey has agreed to testify before Senate Intelligence committee

jerwin

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Actually, I believe the opposite; if Trump somehow manages to stagger all the way to the 2020 finish line without being removed, voters will gladly get rid of him.

But if he's forcibly removed before the 2020 election? There's gonna be an enormous group of aggrieved voters saying that their votes had been overturned. Trump, the newly-minted martyr, will be right back in front of all his rallies, pushing for himself, or (if he can't legally run again) some Trump proxy to get into office. And that'll make for a very interesting election indeed...
The lawfare site has a list of seven theories of L'Affair Russe, ranging from the most innocuous, to the most treasonous.

Theory of the Case #1: It’s All a Giant Set of Coincidences and Disconnected Events
Theory of the Case #2: Trump Attracted Russophiles
Theory of the Case #3: The Russian Operation Wasn’t Really About Trump at All
Theory of the Case #4: Russian Intelligence Actively Penetrated the Trump Campaign—But Trump Didn’t Know
Theory of the Case #5: Russian Intelligence Actively Penetrated the Trump Campaign—And Trump Knew or Should Have Known

Theory of the Case #6: Kompromat
Theory of the Case #7: The President of the United States is a Russian Agent



While it would please me if Trump was impeached for incompetence (because that's what he is), the slam dunk cases for removal are six and seven. Anything less serious risks blowback.

Three, four and possibly five indicate a serious threat to national security that need to be addressed in a "non-partisan" manner, but it's more of a stretch to impeach over that. You could imply that five is a serious, potentially disqualifying lapse in judgement, but if the democrats want Trump gone in less than four years it's a bit of a gamble.

I'd like to have Republicans thinking that they were quite foolish to elect Trump. I'd rather they didn't think of him as a martyr.


There will be other rationales for impeachment, but Russia,is at present, the sexiest.


 
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Abazigal

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How long before the next scandal comes along which will make us forget that this ever happened?

I have to hand it to Trump. In the movies, one small misdemeanour is enough to get the president impeached and charged, and the amount of cover up is easily a James Bond movie in itself. With Trump, it's like nothing sticks to this guy. He doesn't even bother pretending it didn't happen. How blatant can a guy get?
 
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The lawfare site has a list of seven theories of L'Affair Russe, ranging from the most innocuous, to the most treasonous.

Theory of the Case #1: It’s All a Giant Set of Coincidences and Disconnected Events
Theory of the Case #2: Trump Attracted Russophiles
Theory of the Case #3: The Russian Operation Wasn’t Really About Trump at All
Theory of the Case #4: Russian Intelligence Actively Penetrated the Trump Campaign—But Trump Didn’t Know
Theory of the Case #5: Russian Intelligence Actively Penetrated the Trump Campaign—And Trump Knew or Should Have Known

Theory of the Case #6: Kompromat
Theory of the Case #7: The President of the United States is a Russian Agent



While it would please me if Trump was impeached for incompetence (because that's what he is), the slam dunk cases for removal are six and seven. Anything less serious risks blowback.

Three, four and possibly five indicate a serious threat to national security that need to be addressed in a "non-partisan" manner, but it's more of a stretch to impeach over that. You could imply that five is a serious, potentially disqualifying lapse in judgement, but if the democrats want Trump gone in less than four years it's a bit of a gamble.

I'd like to have Republicans thinking that they were quite foolish to elect Trump. I'd rather they didn't think of him as a martyr.


There will be other rationales for impeachment, but Russia,is at present, the sexiest.

I think theory 5 should be only that he knew. The second half of that fits into theory 4, which is actually the one I believe.
 

Huntn

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LOL the DNC has no prayer of removing Trump with the platform of "break down the barriers" and "and we lead with our values".

No one, absolutely no one cares about that ********. Platitudes are DOA in the south, the rust belt and with millennials.

Trump will run as a populist and skewer any corporatist oligarch Democrat.
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This is the DNC's hail Mary. If this fails you're getting 8 years of Trump. Why? DNC has no counter positions to offer that aren't corporatist. They refuse to back universal healthcare, fight for 15, anti interventionism as a party, which basically means they are really bad Republicans rather than an opposition party.
Trump wins if a second one ever happens, rely on stupid as a required element.
 

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Moreover, Barack Obama was/is a man who spoke the English language as though he understood what it meant - a man who understood and knew that words have power and meaning - and therefore, respected the words he used instead of mangling them and abusing them and strangling them into spirals of wild irrational hate and narcissistic, thin-skinned, self-pity.
And it's so impressive that a muslim immigrant actually use the English language better than a native American with excellent education and top marks, also widely considered to have the best words.

I don't care, but make something stick or move on. This entire Russian narrative is beyond tedious at this point.

When are we actually going to start dealing with single payer healthcare and income inequality? You don't even see these issues hinted at while this Russian ******** is front page daily.
Socialism in the US? It's going to take decades. You have to reform the educational system first.

Trump will run as a populist and skewer any corporatist oligarch Democrat.
This made my day, thanks. So funny :)