Jobs: There won’t be a mute-switch becomes an orientation lock option for iPad

Discussion in 'iPad' started by saving107, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. saving107 macrumors 603


    Oct 14, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
  2. whocaresit macrumors 6502a

    Jul 18, 2010

    I miss the 'handy' rotation lock. Steve is so cruel to users. :(
  3. felt. macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2008
    I'm sure the jailbreak community will save us all
  4. Apple all life macrumors 6502

    Apr 2, 2009
    There is already a mute switch. Just hold down on the volume down button and it turns into mute.
  5. Ksane macrumors regular

    Aug 1, 2010
    Because (as always) Apple isn't giving us any other choice. What do they have againt CHOICE anyway? My iPad is my 1st Apple product but it certainly does seem like Apples motto is "our way or the highway". It just seems so......controlling.........not to give people choices when it's so easy for them to do so.
  6. Drag'nGT macrumors 68000


    Sep 20, 2008

    After years of using the iPhone I'm used to the mute switch. We (iPhone) didn't get an orientation lock until iOS4. I could have missed it if I'm wrong though. iPod Touch owners... almost the same thing. Remember, Apple's intro to this product and the hinge of it's success has been that "you already know how to use it."

    Anyway, the point is that when I got my iPad and started a game with sound I instinctively flipped the switch. Nothing. Well then I'm pushing franticly on the volume rocker to mute it. If Apple added this to the lock screen bar like the photo album thing then I don't think it's that big a deal. I never use orientation lock on my iPhone but with the iPad I see the need for it.

    I'm probably in the minority of folks who want that to be a mute switch like other iOS devices but I would also like an easy/additional way to lock the screen without going to the multitasking panel.
  7. Amazing Iceman macrumors 68040

    Amazing Iceman

    Nov 8, 2008
    Florida, U.S.A.

    Uni-crap! I want it to continue the way it is. I can mute the volume with the volume control.
    And we want CHOICE!!!
    Apple, decide: CHOICE or JAILBREAK!!!
  8. sananda macrumors 68020

    May 24, 2007
    I've pretty much got used to it as an orientation lock and I fear change.
  9. PanAm-L1011 macrumors 6502

    May 29, 2010
    Republic of California
    It's not the same thing. The mute switch does not mute audio, which is pretty cool. You don't have to worry about notifications waking you up.
  10. skullnbones macrumors newbie

    Jul 11, 2010
    I wouldn't imagine that many people use the iPad as an alarm clock, especially since it doesn't come with one out of the box.

    I will keep mine as it is until there is a JB for 4.2, then I will only update and re-JB when there is an app turning it into an orientation lock, otherwise it becomes a 3-stage manoeuvre (double press home, swipe left, tap orientation hold).

    The other thing is that I hope it isn't the same as the iOS 4.1 for iPhone, which only lets me lock orientation in portrait, not also in landscape. iPad currently offers both.
  11. Balders macrumors member


    Oct 12, 2008
    In the 4.2 betas for iPad, it locks in both portrait and landscape.
  12. EssentialParado macrumors 65816

    Feb 17, 2005
    I think we eventually need to face the fact that this switch was probably always destined to be a ringer/notification mute switch on the iPad design; the orientation lock was likely only temporary until they got iOS4 out the door. We've come to be accustomed to it as such, but we'll just need to break out of that habit.

    After using it under iOS4 for a while, i've found it pretty useful — I can prevent notifications and sounds when people are around, or in a dark area (e.g., watching a movie,) very quickly and without needing to be rude and light up the screen and go into menus while they wait for me. Instead, it's just a very quick flick of that external switch. There's not really much reason for the orientation lock to be a hardware switch, though — it's not something that needs to be done privately or covertly.

    The problem is, as soon as we start saying we want orientation lock to be a hardware switch, then we'll ask for physical play/pause/skip buttons, and a separate button for multitasking, and so on, and then you end up with the complicated device Apple always wanted to avoid.
  13. JulianL macrumors 65816

    Feb 2, 2010
    London, UK
    I agree, some people might, but I don't really think this is the problem. The problem seems to be that Apple have some philosophical issue with giving users choice. I for one accept that the Apple physical design ethos is to have uncluttered devices and a consequence of that is to have as few physical switches on the device as possible. I can live with that but why on earth can't they at least give users software options so that the few switches that they have are at least useful. I did have a use for the orientation lock, I have no use for a mute switch (I've never muted my iPad since getting it on UK launch day) so effectively Apple have removed one of the few switches from my device for me. Thanks Apple!

    Browsers, spreadsheets, word processors, photo manipulation software, file explorers all have pages of options. iTunes on the PC has an advanced options tab which allows me, amongst other things, to choose whether my streaming buffer size is set to small, medium or large - that's quite a sophisticated and geeky option to expose to a non-computer-literate user so what is so difficult about letting an iPad user decide whether a button should mute or lock the orientation, especially when the precedent of Apple allowing button customisation has already been set with the double-click action of the home button on iPhones prior to iOS 4.0?

    I'm mostly very impressed with my Apple products after getting my first one in April with my iPad and now my iPhone on launch day but this lack of customisation for advanced users is the one thing that really bugs me about Apple and I don't really want to jailbreak.

    - Julian
  14. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    I set up an iPad for an elderly acquaintance, and when I was explaining its functions, the lock orientation switch was very easy to demonstrate, and easy for him to grasp. The new way, however... he's never going to remember all the steps! He lives alone and mainly uses the iPad at home, so it's not like he needs a mute switch, either. I've always gone over to update the firmware for his touch every time there is an update, but I think I won't be updating his iPad to 4.2. It's just not the mute/lock orientation switch, but the whole multitasking thing feels clumsy and unnecessarily complicated, I'm afraid it'll just confuse him, and not like he needs it.
  15. sam8940 macrumors newbie

    Sep 11, 2010
    I dont get why you would need a mute switch because its not like a iphone and it rings. I wish we had a CH:apple:ICE
  16. EssentialParado macrumors 65816

    Feb 17, 2005
    Of course it can ring. Skype and other VoIP apps work on the iPad under iOS4, and a quick switch to tell all messenger / phoning apps that "I'm busy" is very useful.
  17. muu macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2010
    That doesn't make sense -- I just don't want them to fix an existing feature. You know how the saying goes; if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
  18. exemos macrumors member

    Jun 16, 2009
    Steve Jobs wants it all universal. iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad have a total of 5 "buttons". If Steve Jobs want's us to have a Mute, then it has to be a Mute. Obey Apple and don't fight it, you'll be much happier. Like me!
  19. SteveKnobs macrumors 6502

    Jun 23, 2010
    Exactly. The iPad is not a PHONE. Why do I need a mute switch on a device that I almost never hear? What does happen a lot though, is a need to change the orientation of the screen. Apple's approach for uniformity and convenience is actually an inconvenience in this case.
  20. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    But iPod touch doesn't have a mute switch! Having never owned an iPhone, the first idevice i've owned with a fifth switch is the iPad, and I'm used to it being the orientation lock switch. And surely I can't be the only user with this type of use experience. If Apple wanted it to be a mute switch, it should have been that way from the beginning. Now that they've decided they want to change its function mid-stride, there's going to be a lot of confused users come November.
  21. Baschdi616 macrumors newbie

    Jun 22, 2010
    I See only one reason: FaceTime. But this will not be available before the next iPad generation.
  22. ravenas macrumors regular

    Sep 24, 2010
    Which renders the change to mute a downgrade for iPad 1gen owners/users. Without a camera, no 1gen users are going to use Facetime.

    Sometimes I wonder why I am predominately a Windows user. Thankfully Steve Jobs always finds a way to remind me.
  23. agkm800 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 18, 2009
    He screwed us once again. I look for the day when Jobs is no longer in control of Apple.
  24. yegon macrumors 68030

    Oct 20, 2007
    I'd personally prefer rotation lock. However, I'd guess it was Apple's plan to change it right from the outset - the nature of the iPad makes the ability to rotation lock essential, but as the iPad was only running 3.X at launch, in which there's no software function to lock, they had to dedicate the switch to it temporarily until 4.X came along.

    I must admit though, as much as I'd prefer the switch as a lock, having spent considerable time with the beta now, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as I thought it would.

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