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Hawthorne

macrumors regular
Jul 1, 2002
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In front of my Mac
"And one more thing..."

"2 ghz Power4Lites in all Powermacs, starting a month from now."

-begin demo from suitable IBM exec, showing how the the new chip's performance turns Pentium IV's into bleeding, twitching corpses.

-Steve walks over to podium, pulls cover off of new, cool logo for IBM chip, while talking about how it will destroy.

And then, I woke up.

:)
 

djniche

macrumors regular
Apr 10, 2002
175
0
DC
iphone??

icamera?

i think this iw what's next - a new digital hub apple release.
It's a macworld after all. PM demos and the new iphone, icamera would be great
 

mcrain

macrumors 68000
Feb 8, 2002
1,773
12
Illinois
Maybe we could see a new Powerbook in the land of the frogs?

Maybe a new tree frog version of the iBook?

(btw, I'm being obnoxious because of the PC thread not because I have any dislike for the French. Merely being tongue in cheek.)
 

makkystyle

macrumors regular
Aug 12, 2002
209
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why does apple keep all their info locked up so tight. really pisses me off. Just tell me damnit!!!
 

topicolo

macrumors 68000
Jun 4, 2002
1,672
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Ottawa, ON
I hope the Steve Jobs fairy will bring me some nice presents on my birthday (Sept. 10, MW Paris Expo). I new iphone would be very nice.
 

bertinman

macrumors 6502
Jul 24, 2002
272
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Davis, CA
again?

Why is Steve doing another Key Note in a row? how many is it so far? I got the impression that him speaking was a rare thing when I first decided to care about the Expos in January. If indeed, then he should let someone else speak because he'll make himself predictable in his speaches and then when he doesn't speak at the next one, people will be upset (not that they don't get upset for no apparent reason anyway...:rolleyes: ).

He should keep us wanting, have somone else roll out some of the medium guns for once, and then when hes got that new cold-fusion powered tank... leave us all speachless.

I'm still new, so I'll be glued/inspired by most new Apple information but soon I won't be. Things like .Mac, iCal and iSync are cool and all, but they didn't need the king to come out of his private throne room to tell us about them, he should have let his #1 or #2 guy let us know about them (read from a cool oldfashion scroll no doubt too :D).

my 2 cents on this subject...

-- Bert :cool:
 

Q-bert

macrumors member
Mar 20, 2002
42
0
Re: again?

Originally posted by bertinman
Why is Steve doing another Key Note in a row?
Err, because he's the CEO of the company? It's not Jobs' problem here, it's ours. We keep thinking because he's talking, something special must be coming. Well, not necessarily. He's there because it's the only major Apple show in Europe, and probably because he wants to make an appearance in each market at least once a year.

The only over-hyped expectations are created in people's minds. MWSF excepting, Apple NEVER says anything about anything they're working on, yet we find comments like this:

"Apple looks more a political party: They create spectations that are never furfill. (sp)"

So the mere presence of Steve Jobs at an Apple event (the company he runs) "creates spectations"? Is that his fault, or ours?
 

ShaolinMiddleFinger

macrumors 6502a
Oct 12, 2001
745
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oh joy!?!?!! Look out for new rumors of apple pda's, phones, iapps, and anything else we can come up with.

I personally won't believe the rumors anymore.
 

mnkeybsness

macrumors 68030
Jun 25, 2001
2,511
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Moneyapolis, Minnesota
i agree that it will probably be to just show the new powermacs and jaguar and maybe talk about some more software...to release a new product at paris would be pretty dumb...mwny is so much bigger and so many more people go.
 

TyleRomeo

macrumors 6502a
Mar 22, 2002
888
0
New York
ive been following macs since MWSF 2001 and so far they have released some sort of hardware at each of the four yearly macworlds. Why aren't you guys talking rumors about this years Paris show?

Do all of you belive that no new hardware will come out? I mean I'm a total pesemist (can't spell) at this site and often shoot down most of the G5 talks or whatever apears here, but I am certain that some new hardware will apear within the next 3 weeks.

Even tokyo came out with a new 10GB iPod and the 23 HD cinema
So why can't paris release a new LCD or/and a new device?

Seems pretty logical to me
 

bertinman

macrumors 6502
Jul 24, 2002
272
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Davis, CA
Re: Re: again?

Originally posted by Q-bert
So the mere presence of Steve Jobs at an Apple event (the company he runs) "creates spectations"? Is that his fault, or ours?

Noble words, fellow bert.

Could it not be both? The masses are single identities which could calm themselves. But couldn't Steve see that people are never calm when in such a large group? If he is trying to gain more followers (which I think he is doing), he has alot of options.

One is to show up everywhere. This leads to people extremly happy where ever he goes. The people will get pumped up, so to speak. After a few years of this, everyone will be pumped, and they will start to expect new things every time he appears (or even when he is mentioned). This could be dangerous for him because disappointed fans can be ruthless. They could switch back because what they want or dream of isn't available, plus convincing other to as well.

Two, he could stay distanced and have mystery surround him (kinda like Bill Gates... I hardly ever see him in the news -- unless he's in court). The people will be less caring about what is new, and people will just buy the new stuff and go on with their lives. This could be bad too, because someone like #1 could convince them to switch over to them with simple rhetoric (kinda like SJ does with his adds and speaches).

Or, like I was saying, he could combine the two and have the followers and the people who just don't care mixed together. The followers will get others to follow fanatically and the non-carers will convince the followers to go do something else with their lives like sports or the movies... This way he has got both sides working for him.

I don't have as many words (or fluff) for the other side of the arguement (maybe you could help) but I do believe in the analogy of people as a whole are like a river, and leaders are the farmers with bouldosers which need the water for their crops--they need to know what the currents are so that they can direct the river smartly towards themselves so that their dams do not get washed away.

end of rant...

-- Bert :cool:
 

JW Pepper

macrumors regular
Jul 21, 2002
243
61
I think it is odd that Apple hates these rumour sites because rumours can effect the sales of current hardware; and then proceeds to make an announcement like this months in advance leading to a new round of speculation.

Why not save this announcement until December. We were just entering a new period where most people seem to accept that there will be no new PowerMac upgrades until 2003. Whilst there is speculation as to wether the Power 4 chip is going to become the Moto replacement, it isn't expected until the second half of 2003.

This annoncement can only fuel speculation the Steve is going there for a reason. It's all guesswork, but the effect is the same afterall it's only 3 month to January...I can wait...
 

rugby

macrumors regular
Feb 21, 2002
222
0
chicago
This is for MW in Paris which starts on Sept 10th, NOT MW San Francisco which is in January.


Originally posted by JW Pepper
I think it is odd that Apple hates these rumour sites because rumours can effect the sales of current hardware; and then proceeds to make an announcement like this months in advance leading to a new round of speculation.

Why not save this announcement until December. We were just entering a new period where most people seem to accept that there will be no new PowerMac upgrades until 2003. Whilst there is speculation as to wether the Power 4 chip is going to become the Moto replacement, it isn't expected until the second half of 2003.

This annoncement can only fuel speculation the Steve is going there for a reason. It's all guesswork, but the effect is the same afterall it's only 3 month to January...I can wait...
 

Blackcat

macrumors regular
Jun 10, 2002
187
0
Cirencester, UK
MW Paris is usually just the European rehash of MWNY, much like MWTK is the East Asia of MWSF. Whatever new product is due will get mentioned (which looks like it could be screens or iBooks) but I think it will be mostly Jagwire.

Remember, Apple doesn't release just at Expos anymore.
 

Q-bert

macrumors member
Mar 20, 2002
42
0
Originally posted by JW Pepper
I think it is odd that Apple hates these rumour sites because rumours can effect the sales of current hardware; and then proceeds to make an announcement like this months in advance leading to a new round of speculation.
The other option is no good either. Steve Jobs should speak in different countries where Apple sells products at least on an occasional basis, especially around the release of a major new product (OS X 10.2). How would you feel if Apple were a French company selling computers to American buyers, yet the CEO never made an appearance at a US trade show merely because it *might* create speculation from those on the internet whose hobby is to speculate in the first place? This is "MacRumors", after all...

And, as someone pointed out, this announcement is just a PR schedule, and it's for a show coming up sooner than you think (September). There's nothing wrong with the timing of this. I don't know why some people here think that Jobs shouldn't speak unless he has earth-shattering news for all of us, or if he does speak then by extension he WILL have earth-shattering news to announce. I don't want to put him on that kind of pedestal, he's just a businessman, not the messiah. This ain't the gospel according to Steve - I just happen to buy and like the computers his company makes, nothing more.

To bertinman:

It's a good point, that Jobs himself creates some of the hype because of past behavior. But ultimately, I think most of the blame falls on us, readers and participators in the Mac rumor site merry-go-round. Even if Jobs were to stop talking completely tomorrow, these sites would still speculate up a storm about whatever Apple were to introduce, which is why I think the problem is not on Apple's side of the fence.
 

djniche

macrumors regular
Apr 10, 2002
175
0
DC
Isync + Ical release = iphone?

ealy september is time for release of the new isync and ical applications - can it be posibble this were pushed to macworld paris to come out with iphone?? coincidence that this applications all can be use in a phone/ pda with those features?

why not - it would be very logical to have all the new jaguar features to come out this weekend. And be used along with isync and ical with the unveil of the iphone on macworld paris. I wouldnt rule out a new lcd either.
 
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