John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Gutwrench, Mar 27, 2018.

  1. Gutwrench, Mar 27, 2018
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    Gutwrench Contributor


    Jan 2, 2011
    Not a snowflake’s chance in hell.
  2. Rhonindk macrumors 68040


    I so agree. Someone slipped his meds sounds like.

    Simple. Easy. Yeah. Riiigghht. :rolleyes:
  3. BasicGreatGuy Contributor


    Sep 21, 2012
    In the middle of several books.
    Repeal of the II Amendment means there is no defense against governmental tyranny. No way I would support such a ludicrous idea.
  4. Solomani macrumors 68040


    Sep 25, 2012
    Alberto, Canado
    Oh boy. One old retired Justice just triggered the entire NRA crowd. o_O

  5. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    But but But I thought no one was supporting this.......according to all our liberal members
  6. mobilehaathi macrumors G3


    Aug 19, 2008
    The Anthropocene
  7. fitshaced macrumors 68000


    Jul 2, 2011
    I think the ludicrous idea is believing you can use your guns to defend yourself against the government. If that's why you own a gun, you might as well be holding a butt plug.
  8. Vanilla Ice macrumors 6502

    Vanilla Ice

    Jan 30, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Bundy Ranch standoff seemed to do just fine.
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    Thanks for sharing a meme of a triggered Liberal.
  9. CaptMurdock Suspended


    Jan 2, 2009
    The Evildrome Boozerama
    Justice Stevens did not say "easy." He said "simple" in the context that instead of trying to draft mountains of legislation, it would be simpler to repeal the 2A. So let us eschew this "meds" snottiness.
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    The only reason the Bundy Ranch snipers didn't end up as greasy stains on the pavement is that the federal government wanted to avoid another Waco/Ruby Ridge PR headache. Why give the gun fetishists a bunch of martyrs over a dispute about grazing rights?

    Discretion. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
  10. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    Not many people do. That said in 25 to 50 years if there is no compromise from the NRA to allow sensible restrictions we will likely see a full repeal of the 2nd.
  11. Vanilla Ice macrumors 6502

    Vanilla Ice

    Jan 30, 2011
    Los Angeles
    If that's how you feel, then you're entitled to your opinion. Still doesn't hide the fact that the BLM walked away.
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    Then it would start havoc. But if that's what the people want, than that's what the people will get.
  12. Solomani macrumors 68040


    Sep 25, 2012
    Alberto, Canado
    Nonsense. The government already has the best military-grade butt plugs. Ordinary butt plugs used by 2A defenders are useless deterrents.
  13. linuxcooldude macrumors 68020

    Mar 1, 2010
    Let's see them run on that during the next election...hehe
  14. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a


    Aug 26, 2009
    It’s a good point. I’m not anti-gun by any stretch, but if people see something that pertains to technology as a perpetual, unalienable right, then I disagree. And that’s fine, I suppose whichever way you feel. If we have flying cars one day, I’d hope the laws that applied to a car in 1950 wouldn’t still apply.
  15. ViperDesign macrumors 6502a


    Aug 7, 2007
    I am perfectly fine with the 2nd amendment, I just think we really need to get it updated to today's standards and weapons
  16. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    That won't work in the next election. But ten years, twenty years down the line, popular opinion could shift to such a degree that repealing or amending the 2nd Amendment could become politically feasible.

    Updating the amendment requires an amendment. :D
  17. obeygiant, Mar 27, 2018
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    obeygiant macrumors 68040


    Jan 14, 2002
    totally cool
    It'll be so easy to get a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate on repealing the 2nd amendment. Then getting 3/4 of the states to ratify it. Bam done! NO MORE GUNS!! YAY! No one will ever shoot anyone again.
  18. Rhonindk, Mar 27, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2018

    Rhonindk macrumors 68040


    ROTFLMFAO!!!!! Sorry.

    Neither easy nor simple. It can be made to sound easy / simple if you are explaining it at grade school level....
    Hopefully that wasn’t the intent.;)
  19. Strider64 macrumors 6502a


    Dec 1, 2015
    Suburb of Detroit
    "I believe that a man is the strongest soldier for daring to die unarmed" ~ Mahatma Gandhi
  20. Rhonindk macrumors 68040


    True but that isn’t the issue.
    This is like 1950 auto laws applying to 2018 autos. Still an auto even if it is a bit above what was available then.
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    While true it is a bit anti-darwinistic in this day and age.
    Maybe someday.
  21. DearthnVader macrumors 6502a


    Dec 17, 2015
    Red Springs, NC
    You can't repeal an unalienable right.

    Changing the law, will not change the truth.

    "Certain Unalienable Rights"
    Democracy and liberty are often thought to be the same thing, but they are not.

    Democracy means that people ought to be able to vote for public officials in fair elections, and make most political decisions by majority rule.
    Liberty, on the other hand, means that even in a democracy, individuals have rights that no majority should be able to take away.

    The rights that the Constitution's framers wanted to protect from government abuse were referred to in the Declaration of Independence as "unalienable rights." They were also called "natural" rights, and to James Madison, they were "the great rights of mankind." Although it is commonly thought that we are entitled to free speech because the First Amendment gives it to us, this country's original citizens believed that as human beings, they were entitled to free speech, and they invented the First Amendment in order to protect it. The entire Bill of Rights was created to protect rights the original citizens believed were naturally theirs
  22. chagla macrumors 6502a


    Mar 21, 2008
    Yes, you can surely defeat the gov't army, and emerge victorious. Strange other democracies exist in the world without this clause of arming bears. Amendment, it means it was changed at some point to meet NEEDS AT THAT TIME, why can't it change again? time to adapt. it's no longer 1800

    Question for others too... Can you win?

    hopefully you're not suggesting more sophisticated weapons be available to citizens, are you?
  23. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Could be less. Also - the NRA shouldn't have control over the Constitution. They are not a governing body. Not saying you think they are. But it's very telling when that's the conversation we're having.
  24. sim667 macrumors 65816

    Dec 7, 2010
    It doesn't take much to be honest.
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    Your AR15 will work so well against a Predator MQ1

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