Judge approves Work Furlough: Forced to take days off without pay

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by SFStateStudent, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. atszyman macrumors 68020


    Sep 16, 2003
    The Dallas 'burbs
    At least you still have a job. The alternative of many losing their job and pay completely isn't all that appealing either. I'd rather be employed 80% of the time for 80% of the pay than employed 0% of the time for 0% of the pay.
  2. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Yes, the alternative really isn't any more pleasant, and I'd rather know that everyone's sharing the burden by losing one workday every 2 weeks rather than keep my job, work that extra day, but know that 2 or 3 of my colleagues had to be fired and are completely without an income, particularly if they have a wife and children.
  3. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    Agreed. The real thing to be complaining about is how or why California got into such a mess in the first place.
  4. mactastic macrumors 68040


    Apr 24, 2003
    For some reason, Ahhnold hasn't been able to fix the problems he blamed Grey Davis for. Go figure... :rolleyes:

    Why are we in this mess? Because Californians have a nasty habit of using the ballot box to both mandate increased spending and decreased taxes. The amount of discretionary funds in the budget is incredibly small.
  5. Silencio macrumors 68020


    Jul 18, 2002
    The politicians aren't doing their jobs to decide what to spend money on or not, so the special interests get to use the ballot to work around that. Such an insanely stupid system we have.

    That and the 2/3rds majority vote needed to approve all spending initiatives (also brought about by a voter initiative IIRC) serve to pretty much cripple California's ability to make a budget on time.

    Time to rip up the whole lot and start again from scratch.
  6. mactastic macrumors 68040


    Apr 24, 2003
    Indeed. Time for one more initiative:

    "All previous ballot initiatives are hereby made null and void, and the ballot initiative process is hereby eliminated."​

    The 2/3rds rule, particularly when coupled with the gerrymandering that tends to produce "safe" seats, but which also has the effect of producing more extreme members of the party which claims that seat as "safe", has the particularly nasty result of virtually guaranteeing that budget negotiations will fail. Unless one party can get that many members, which is virtually impossible with the "safe seat" deal, this will continue to happen.
  7. SFStateStudent thread starter macrumors 604


    Aug 28, 2007
    San Francisco California, USA
    Would you be my Governor???:D
  8. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Don't worry, if you had a union, the union would fight this for you.

    And the company would simply close a building or two and consolidate operations.

    A 4 day 40 hour work week tends to work better if they can afford to stay closed 3 days a week, a work furlough might backfire and let stuff build up 1-2 days every couple weeks making it tougher on employees in more ways than expected.
  9. LethalWolfe macrumors G3


    Jan 11, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Two unions took the state to court and apparently lost.

    As others have said, taking a 10% pay cut sucks (which is what this amounts to) but getting laid off sucks even worse. Maybe there should be an alternative. Everyone who complains that this isn't fair gets laid off and the remaining people get to stay and work full time. :D

  10. SactoGuy18 macrumors 68030


    Sep 11, 2006
    Sacramento, CA USA
    Be lucky at least you still have a job. If you still have a job at least you won't run afoul of credit agencies.
  11. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    There is a reason California is known as the free lunch state.

    It is a state that wants a lot of free stuff and does not want to pay for it.
    The state has been in budget problems for years now and it is really hitting them hard because they failed to get it under control when times where good. Now that it is bad they are screwed.
  12. rhett7660 macrumors G4


    Jan 9, 2008
    Sunny, Southern California
    Isn't that the truth. Be thankful you still have a source of income and you are not joining the ranks of the unemployed. However in California that is not so bad... :D

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