Judges say middle school teacher can’t shake porn past, must not return to classroom

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  1. SilentPanda Moderator emeritus

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...481fbe-5f83-11e2-9dc9-bca76dd777b8_story.html

     
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    This probably wouldn't matter except for the fact that she wants to teach middle school. IMO would be to look for a different line of work.
     
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    Well I do not agree with the judge. I can understand if she did something illegal in the past but she did nothing illegal.
     
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    Yes but this the same Country where Janet Jackson's bare nipple, caused an outrage.:p
     
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    Why?

    It's not like she's still appearing in porn. Who cares what she used to do? Just because she had sex on camera doesn't make her any less of a person or mean she can't be a good teacher.
     
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    On one hand I completely agree with you. It shouldn't matter what she used to do. Pretend she was also doing porn once a month on the side while also being a teacher. Would that matter so long as she never mixed the two? In theory that also shouldn't matter. Nobody at the school is exposed to her other job just the same (unless they look her up). For some reason that is different, but I'm not sure it should be either.
     
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    It's only "different" because the religious right still thinks they should try to brainwash children in to thinking sex is bad and worse than killing people in 2013.

    It's driven by religion. Modern countries who have woken up and pushed religion out of politics don't have these kinds of problems.

    But hey, it's America right? "The land of freedom and opportunity" (if you white and believe in christianity) :rolleyes:
     
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    Do you remember middle school? Its like hormone madness. Once word got out that she was in some movies--and it will-- kids will see it and the teacher becomes something else in the eyes of the students.

    It would be fine if she could hide it. Thats the other point of the article though, its nearly impossible to hide your digital past especially if you appeared in porn movies. If she was a pharmacist or a even worked in an office it would be easier, but she's middle school teacher.
     
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    If I had a hot teacher that I knew was in porn I would not skip that class and maybe learn something.:p
     
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    Just fyi porn ≠ sex. Pornography is entertainment bordering on prostitution with situations designed to arouse prurient interests. If you had a middle schooler with questions about sex would you just show them porn? Probably not.
     
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    My, how times have changed.

    I had a math teacher in 8th grade (mid 70s) who was rumored to have posed in Playboy. Well, one day my older cousin, who went to same school as me, gets a hold of the issue that she's in. Wasn't a nude spread but a series of very sexy shots with breasts exposed. A bunch of us got into trouble for having the magazine and not a thing happened to the teacher.
     
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    It very well might mean that very thing. The students know she's done porn; it wouldn't take a show of hands to believe that at least some of them are going to be distracted by the thought of her having done those films. Once students become overly distracted by something like this, the teacher becomes ineffective. On that note, it's not a moral issue, but it most certainly is an issue of whether she's still able to effectively do her job.
     
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    1. Since when is southern California a bastion of the "religious right"?

    2. Don't lump all religious people into one group. It makes you look silly. Christ followers are as diverse as any other group of people in this country.

    3. You'll never be able to fully get religion out of politics in this country. We elect representatives and those people (allegedly) go to Washington to do the work of the people that sent them there. We cannot be surprised that when we elect a Christian that the person uses Christian values to guide them on their way.
     
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    I lump all of you together and judge all of you by the worst of you. We'll get religion out of politics it might take a few generation but it'll be gone.
     
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    All it takes is a rumor. Does not have to be true or not. If she looks pretty/hot then automatically that line of reasoning goes threw their heads.
     
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    Don't kid yourself. Middle school kids see way worse all the time. Some of them are having sex already, and the rest of them surely know how to use google image search.

    Trying to shelter kids from something thats a part of human nature is borderline insanity.

    This is a better argument against it than most people I have seen in these situations (it's definitely not the first time). And unfortunately, although you're right that it shouldn't be a moral issue, to many people it is. Mostly because they have an extremely warped sense of morality.

    There are religious nuts all over the place, it's not like California is exempt from it. I didn't even look at the place where this happened when I read the thread.

    I don't have any problem if you want to believe in god, fairys, flying spaghetti monsters, whatever, but keep it in private. Fairy tales should have no place in making decisions like this. And unfortunately for the people who can practice their religion without forcing down others throats, most religious people apparently don't have that capability.

    And you're right that religion isn't going out of politics soon, but I hope it does in my lifetime. Once the current generation in power is replaced by younger people, we're going to start to see religion decline.
     
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    That seems like a good way to go through life. Do you also consider all dads to be deadbeats, all women to be conniving, all poor people to be lazy, all rich people to be greedy, all white people to be rednecks, all black people to be criminals, and all Muslims to be terrorists too?

    The sad thing here is a true follower of Christ would have no problem with accepting this woman and not thinking twice about her past insofar that it isn't also part of her present.
     
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    Why should it matter if it is part of her present if the past doesn't matter? Does it make her teaching or the students perception of her better/worse if the videos are 6 months old or current?
     
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    You keep pushing this link between the article and religion where there is none.
     
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    Present = actively still in porn.

    If it's behind her then everyone else should move on too.
     
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    It's quite convenient thank you!
     
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    I know what present is. Why would it matter if she was presently doing porn, say once a week? She wouldn't be inviting the kids to the shoots or even talking to them about it.

    The reason I ask this is because for most I'm guessing if she is presently doing porn, teaching is out of the question, but if she has done porn in the past then teaching is okay. However the videos she makes (past or present) still have the same longevity and accessibility to those that are against her having done porn in the past and teaching currently.

    People say "She's not doing it now, the past is past." I'm asking, if she was doing it now, why should that matter since the accessibility would be the same.
     
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    At my old school the teacher would have been ridiculed by the students for that. Kids are just plain mean. If anyone with that level of, for lack of a better word, "fame" showed up at school they'd have been a popular target.

    Makes you wonder though. It takes a long time to train to be a teacher. You wouldn't feature in pornography if you wanted to teach children.
     
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    Not specifically, but the majority of America's fear of anything to do with sex has roots in religion.

    We were founded by the puritans.
     

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