I've just tried the new non-touch MBP in the Sydney Apple store, and was quite impressed. Although it is an expensive computer, it actually doesn't seem too bad when compared the MacBook and the older rMBP 13, which were placed next to it. For AU$2,199 (inc. taxes) it seemed to be a much more capable machine than the base MacBook at AU$1,999; yes it is slightly larger & heavier, but overall, the speed & features seemed much better. The older rMBP 13, configured with a (slower) 256GB SSD is still available but more expensive at AU$2,319, so I really can't see why anyone would choose this unless the need for legacy ports or the keyboard were a deal-breaker. I didn't actually notice the keyboard until I thought about it, and actually found it preferable to the older one. For my typing style (very light), I found it both fast and accurate, although it does make a noticeably "clicky" sound. The speakers are very loud & clear, and the screen is great. If one can live with the lack of ports, or the need for dongles (already an issue with my 2013 rMBP 15), then I think it is actually quite a nice computer. I don't need one, and would wait until a second release (with Kaby Lake CPUs) in any case, but the experience was much more positive that I had expected after reading the criticism posted on MacRumors! John.