Justin Amash leaving the Republican Party

Rogifan

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Most Americans are not rigidly partisan and do not feel well represented by either of the two major parties. In fact, the parties have become more partisan in part because they are catering to fewer people, as Americans are rejecting party affiliation in record numbers.

These same independent-minded Americans, however, tend to be less politically engaged than Red Team and Blue Team activists. Many avoid politics to focus on their own lives, while others don’t want to get into the muck with the radical partisans.

But we owe it to future generations to stand up for our constitutional republic so that Americans may continue to live free for centuries to come. Preserving liberty means telling the Republican Party and the Democratic Party that we’ll no longer let them play their partisan game at our expense.

Today, I am declaring my independence and leaving the Republican Party. No matter your circumstance, I’m asking you to join me in rejecting the partisan loyalties and rhetoric that divide and dehumanize us. I’m asking you to believe that we can do better than this two-party system — and to work toward it. If we continue to take America for granted, we will lose it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/justin-amash-our-politics-is-in-a-partisan-death-spiral-thats-why-im-leaving-the-gop/2019/07/04/afbe0480-9e3d-11e9-b27f-ed2942f73d70_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d54cd749d889

No surprise really. If only more people would move away from this binary choice idea. I would love it if 2020 had the lowest turnout for the two major parties but sadly I fear it will be record turnout, and not for independents.
 

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Most Americans are not rigidly partisan and do not feel well represented by either of the two major parties. In fact, the parties have become more partisan in part because they are catering to fewer people, as Americans are rejecting party affiliation in record numbers.

These same independent-minded Americans, however, tend to be less politically engaged than Red Team and Blue Team activists. Many avoid politics to focus on their own lives, while others don’t want to get into the muck with the radical partisans.

But we owe it to future generations to stand up for our constitutional republic so that Americans may continue to live free for centuries to come. Preserving liberty means telling the Republican Party and the Democratic Party that we’ll no longer let them play their partisan game at our expense.

Today, I am declaring my independence and leaving the Republican Party. No matter your circumstance, I’m asking you to join me in rejecting the partisan loyalties and rhetoric that divide and dehumanize us. I’m asking you to believe that we can do better than this two-party system — and to work toward it. If we continue to take America for granted, we will lose it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/justin-amash-our-politics-is-in-a-partisan-death-spiral-thats-why-im-leaving-the-gop/2019/07/04/afbe0480-9e3d-11e9-b27f-ed2942f73d70_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d54cd749d889

No surprise really. If only more people would move away from this binary choice idea. I would love it if 2020 had the lowest turnout for the two major parties but sadly I fear it will be record turnout, and not for independents.
Then start to boycott everything but necessities, it will cause the board members of corporations to reduce their pay and perhaps lobby for a better government and increased pay like $23.00 per hour.
 

Rogifan

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And didn’t take long for Trump to weigh in. Classy as always.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
7/4/19, 8:05 AM
Great news for the Republican Party as one of the dumbest & most disloyal men in Congress is “quitting” the Party. No Collusion, No Obstruction! Knew he couldn’t get the nomination to run again in the Great State of Michigan. Already being challenged for his seat. A total loser!
 

BeeGood

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Lot 23E. Somewhere in Georgia.
There were two terrible candidates in 2016 and still third party votes were low.

If you want more choice fix the voting system to be like Maine’s.
Exactly. The entire country needs ranked choice voting. How we continue to just eat up this duopolistic false choice system is just baffling, and 2016 was a perfect example of that.
 

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Exactly. The entire country needs ranked choice voting. How we continue to just eat up this duopolistic false choice system is just baffling, and 2016 was a perfect example of that.
It’s already chosen who will win, the voting part is just entertainment for the masses.
 
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And didn’t take long for Trump to weigh in. Classy as always.
Does anyone still doubt what Trump meant when he asked Comey for loyalty? I mean the man makes is abundantly clear that if you do what he wants or support him/compliments him - you're "aces" but if you don't...
 
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Wow. You’re as off as the New York Times saying Hilary had a 95% chance of winning except you have less information to base that on.
The NY Times dictates to the citizens what it thinks or believes will be (the times wants people to vote for a specific candidate based on who they think will win) the next president.
 

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Wow. You’re as off as the New York Times saying Hilary had a 95% chance of winning except you have less information to base that on.
Who on the left do you think can beat Trump that the DNC will also allow to run? They seem to have a comprehension issue between who the people want and who the donors will accept and when in doubt they'll go with the donors' choice.
 

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Who on the left do you think can beat Trump that the DNC will also allow to run? They seem to have a comprehension issue between who the people want and who the donors will accept and when in doubt they'll go with the donors' choice.
I’m not convinced Bernie would have beaten Trump. I think his main issue is that he’d have struggled a lot with the Romney Clinton voters and I think they’d have voted for Trump instead.

Sure he’d have caused fewer Obama Trump voters, but how many fewer? I’m not sure.

And yes the media wouldn’t have gone on about her emails, but they’d have gone on about socialism instead.

In 2020 I think it’s a different kettle of fish. You can’t (if you’re sane) pretend Trump was going to be pro business and the more left wing candidates are more robust on Trumps norm violations.
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The NY Times dictates to the citizens what it thinks or believes will be (the times wants people to vote for a specific candidate based on who they think will win) the next president.
I don’t think the New York Times has the capability to do that. It’s readers are too cynical - they live in big cities after all. Plus its readers are successful so they don’t need fake platitudes about the past to get by.
 
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In 2020 I think it’s a different kettle of fish. You can’t (if you’re sane) pretend Trump was going to be pro business and the more left wing candidates are more robust on Trumps norm violations.
I think Trump will win because he's exactly not part of what's perceived as the left. And he's become a known quantity at this point, as crazy as that sounds.
 

Eraserhead

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They seem to lack a sense of purpose. Beating Trump shouldn't be the goal.

As distasteful as trump was with his MAGA slogan, it seemed like he had a great purpose.
Have you missed all the policy proposals coming out of the left? Hell even Hilary had a massive platform...

EDIT: I get that those things haven’t always got masses of coverage, that’s because covering the outrage over Nike not making a shoe drives more page views.
 
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Another Flake as in Jeff... or when McCain sunk the health care vote after running and winning on repeal and replace.

Trump is right... this guy is a loser.