Kellyanne Conway on Trump

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If you're not already cynical about politicians and the spin doctors that represent them, listen to what Kellyanne said about Trump when she was working for Ted Cruz. Some samples:

  • Trump treatment of the little guy, e.g., not paying them after they built something.
  • Victims of Trump University.
  • Trump saying things that aren't true and getting people to lap it up.
  • She'd like to see Trump's tax returns.
  • Trump not acting presidential.
 

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they all say that when they are working for others, look at everything Bernie said about the crooked one, just to sell out and flip...
Conway is right, but she is a sellout like Bernie............
Bernie saw Hillary as being the lesser of two evils. Not sure that qualifies as a sellout.
 
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If you're not already cynical about politicians and the spin doctors that represent them, listen to what Kellyanne said about Trump when she was working for Ted Cruz. Some samples:

  • Trump treatment of the little guy, e.g., not paying them after they built something.
  • Victims of Trump University.
  • Trump saying things that aren't true and getting people to lap it up.
  • She'd like to see Trump's tax returns.
  • Trump not acting presidential.
Yes...it's only bad until it's not. When you start working for the other guy all those complaints not only magically melt away, they start becoming good things even. I really don't know how people like Kellyanne sleep at night. I couldn't live with myself lying all the time like that.
 

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When I saw the title, "Kellyanne Conway on Trump," I was expecting a completely different thread.
Well I might as well ask, now that you've flooded my head with dirty images I don't want to imagine ... were you expecting a thread where KAC was literally on Trump (ehem ehem) or she was praising him like no other?
 
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Yes...it's only bad until it's not. When you start working for the other guy all those complaints not only magically melt away, they start becoming good things even. I really don't know how people like Kellyanne sleep at night. I couldn't live with myself lying all the time like that.
This means either she was lying when she was in Cruz's camp, she's lying now that she works for Trump, or she had a genuine change of opinion before Trump hired her. I'm not betting on that last one.
 
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Bernie saw Hillary as being the lesser of two evils. Not sure that qualifies as a sellout.
Anyone who uses the term "sell-out" for Bernie, but also voted trump just so that Clinton wouldn't win, is also a sell out then

Bernie wasn't going to end up winning the primaries for the Dem's. The game was set and he lost. He backed off and gave his support begrudgingly to Hillary.

if the "sellout" mantle applies for that, then the sell-out mantle applies for every single republican who when proposed with losing to trump, threw in the towel and threw support at him. Same with anyone who voted trump on the simple premise "he's not Hillary"
 

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he's a worthless sellout, do as I say & not as I do, paid less in wages than what he was pushing for, worthless....
At least every time I saw Bernie try to endorse Hillary or currently endorsing the carcass of the Democratic party he looks like he just puked a little in his mouth.
 
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Anyone who uses the term "sell-out" for Bernie, but also voted trump just so that Clinton wouldn't win, is also a sell out then

Bernie wasn't going to end up winning the primaries for the Dem's. The game was set and he lost. He backed off and gave his support begrudgingly to Hillary.

if the "sellout" mantle applies for that, then the sell-out mantle applies for every single republican who when proposed with losing to trump, threw in the towel and threw support at him. Same with anyone who voted trump on the simple premise "he's not Hillary"
Got it. So basically, anyone who didn't vote Hillary is a sellout.
 

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This is the sort of thing that goes on all the time, do I really need to find all the Obama->Hillary, Hillary->Obama quotes from 2008?

Obama hired some former Hillary staffers form the 2008 campaign, do you think they all said nice things about him when they were pitted in a political battle for the highest office in the free world?

If Trump was as thin skinned and vindictive as people like to make him out to be, wouldn't his staff be made up of people that only had nice things to say about him, ever?
 

LordVic

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Got it. So basically, anyone who didn't vote Hillary is a sellout.
What? Nice reading comprehension bud


I was making a statement that it's NOT selling out, hence "if you consider x selling out than so is Y" argument I was making.


No, none of these are selling out, contrary to the person I was responding to calling Bernie a sellout.

But it's clear what spin you want to run with.
 
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If you're not already cynical about politicians and the spin doctors that represent them, listen to what Kellyanne said about Trump when she was working for Ted Cruz.
Advocates advocate. From campaign managers to attorneys to salespeople.
 

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You call it advocating. I just call it lying and selling one's soul.
In that case attorneys, particularly defense attorneys, do it daily. I think most see advocates as an integral part of jurisprudence.

While it may not be the profession you'd chose for yourself, I'm of the thought calling advocates, whose job it is to vigorously and zealously represent their client, liars and having sold their souls is rather unreasonable and a bit irrational. Maybe reconsider?
 
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In that case attorneys, particularly defense attorneys, do it daily. I think most see advocates as an integral part of jurisprudence.
No - while a lawyer is expected to vigorously defend his client, he is not allowed to lie. Knowingly make a false statement of material fact can get a lawyer disciplined or even disbarred.
 
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No - while a lawyer is expected to vigorously defend his client, he is not allowed to lie. Knowingly make a false statement of material fact can get a lawyer disciplined or even disbarred.
Who said they lied? Just because someone says a person lied does mean they aren't exaggerating. Besides, a skilled person does not need to lie to purposefully paint a picture.