This may sound cynical, but I suspect many people in Texas might secretly sympathize with the Klan. Just my own suspicion.mactastic said:Oooo! I remember when there were people claiming that Kerry was tainted because there were Socialist groups supporting him! I wonder if that concept still applies?
I know, I know, it's irrelevant. I just wish it was that way ALL the time.
But, on the plus side, perhaps this will drive a few more people away from supporting this awful proposal.
i nominate this for Post of the Month.ColoJohnBoy said:I wonder what my ancestors would say... one great-grandfather was a grand wizard in the KKK, another was black, and I'm gay. We should have our own panel show. Like the McLaughin Group. But more attractive.
That's right, and my buddy's uncle was the grand wizard at one time. It was a wonderful state. I know I enjoyed the beatings.wordmunger said:
While Indiana, California, and other non-southern states have had large KKK organizations, its birthplace is in the southern state of Tennessee.wordmunger said:
The original Ku Klux Klan was created after the end of the American Civil War on December 24, 1865, by six educated, middle-class Confederate veterans who were bored with postwar Pulaski, Tennessee. The name was constructed by combining the Greek "kyklos" (circle) with "clan." It was at first a humorous social club centering on practical jokes and hazing rituals. From 1866 to 1867, the Klan began breaking up black prayer meetings and invading black homes at night to steal firearms. Some of these activities may have been modeled on previous Tennessee vigilante groups such as the Yellow Jackets and Redcaps.
In an 1867 convention held in Nashville, the Klan was formalized as a national organization under a "Prescript" written by George Gordon, a former Confederate brigadier general....
Most Texans are just ignorant, but few are hateful, so I don't know if I'd say that. But passive ignorance can be equally as dangerous unfortunately .leekohler said:This may sound cynical, but I suspect many people in Texas might secretly sympathize with the Klan. Just my own suspicion.
BTW- whatever happened with this scem0? Did it pass?scem0 said:Most Texans are just ignorant, but few are hateful, so I don't know if I'd say that. But passive ignorance can be equally as dangerous unfortunately .
The KKK wasn't born in Indiana, but the Hoosier state was home to the rebirth of the KKK in 1920's.wordmunger said:
So I would expect a ban on divorce to follow?The Article said:"Texans know that marriage is between a man and a woman, and children deserve both a mom and a dad. They don't need a PhD or a degree in anything else to teach them that," said Kelly Shackelford, a leader of Texans For Marriage, which favored the gay marriage ban.
I'm sure I don't get this reasoning. Lest we forget, we're talking about basic issues of civil rights here. Singling out one group to get the short end of the civil rights stick is inherently discriminatory. I'm confident that eventually a clear majority the nation will see the issue that way, but in the meantime, we're in for a rough ride.crdean1 said:Wow, hold off on the Texans. I have never been judgemental toward gay people, no reason to be really...
...that said, seeing as how judgemental gay people are toward Texas in this thread, I may change my mind.
Edit: Ever been to Dallas (lots of gay people), I would say that most gay people that are my friends and even those I have met, including some old neighbors we had, never felt (to my knowledge) like they were singled out. On the contrary, people's values may lead them to disagree with one another on principle, but that doesn't always mean they are less accepting of anyone else, gay, straight, black, white, etc.
It looks like it's the other way around. You don't see the religious folks comparing the gay folks to anything (as we were compared to the KKK). People in Texas voted their values, would you want them to do anything different? So you disagree with the majority of Texans, people that disagree with eachother can still be non-judgemental and find common ground...mactastic said:Hmm, maybe since so many religious folks are so judgmental of gays, perhaps I should be judgmental of them in response.
Two wrongs DO make a right after all...
So- voting to deny people equal rights is a value?crdean1 said:It looks like it's the other way around. You don't see the religious folks comparing the gay folks to anything (as we were compared to the KKK). People in Texas voted their values, would you want them to do anything different? So you disagree with the majority of Texans, people that disagree with eachother can still be non-judgemental and find common ground...
I wouldn't have been mad if the vote went the other way. It would have reflected the values of the majority, and I would have been fine with it.