Knife Attack in London

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  1. Benjamin Frost, Aug 4, 2016
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-terrorist-knife-attack-central-London.html

    One 60 year old woman murdered and five others injured by an Islamic terrorist with a knife in London last night. An accomplice is said to have sped away on a motorbike. It took place in Russell Square, central London, close to the place of the terrorist attack in 2005.

    The U.K. is as bad as Germany when it comes to the establishment lying to the public.

    The media have not reported the name of the attacker, nor given a description of him. And they describe 'mental issues', which these days is the politically correct way of saying terrorist.

    If he is not a Muslim who killed in the name of the Islamic faith, I will be amazed. One can assume he is from the denial and silence from the police and the media.
     
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    Before everyone gets all anti Islam as per on MR, please be clear that the OP has severely editorialised his posts to skew blame toward terrorism.

    From the Guardian
    From the Daily Mail
    Very sad for the victims, but to me this does sound like a bit of a nutter going cray cray, rather than an organised terrorist attack.
     
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    If that were the case, the police would have already released his name and description. The fact they haven't makes it highly likely that he was a Muslim carrying out an attack in the name of Islam. Our police are taking a leaf out of Germany's playbook: obscure and deny any implication of Islamic Terrorist Attacks until the truth cannot be contained any longer.
     
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    Is there any chance of you moving back home, Benjamin?
     
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    Similar tactic as what was displayed back last December. It was not classed as a terror incident in the sense the media recognize/portray it. At the court case it came out clearly the man had been radicalized via internet propaganda.Scary stuff as those in power won't declare it so information gets obscured and everyone ends up with half truths and downright lies.

    This is me being dramatic but it seems to be an opinion/worry that if information is presented for what it is, the 'common people' will reject a section of society and then turn the tide to persecute them - which will cause a whole civil war/european civil uprising.
     
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    I think your tinfoil hat might be a bit thin.....

    If this is an organised terrorist attack, its not a very good one..... Infact it would show weakness in their ability to carry out terror attacks in the UK.
     
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    Civil war is more likely to occur if the government deceives the people, as is the case today in Germany and the UK.
     
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    Look at the bright side: if there's a civil war, if you play your cards right, you might have a (tiny) chance at establishing the Christian theocracy you've been longing for, spanning the realms of the British Empire of yore.
     
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    Overplaying terror attacks is also deceiving the people.
     
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    Civil war between who and who?
     
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    Between Muslims and Benjamin Frost.
     
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    Generally speaking it's best to keep speculation to yourself until you have some evidence to go on otherwise you risk being labelled a conspiraloon.
    Long time watchers of this type of thing would have been alerted by the fact he was being held at a Sarf London police station and not the North London one which is where terrorist suspects are normally banged up.(for anyone interested it's Paddington Green)
     
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    Too early to be sure what has happened. Certainly there is not enough information to justify the title of this thread. We need to learn to wait for evidence before passing judgement on events like this. If the extremist terrorists create a state in which any violent crime is interpreted automatically as an act of terror, then they have won, for they will have created the conditions in which we live in fear and interpret everything through that fear.

    So, OP, hold the line, just like a solider would be defeating his or her fear. Acknowledge this might be an act of terrorism but suspend judgement until we know for sure what happened.


    Edit: FWIW this was in reference to the original title of the thread as noted below:

    I was not trying to flame the OP, but to discourage the fear that terrorists want to create in us.
     
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    Watch out when media and politicians decline to identify the alleged perpetrators.
     
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    Because he is Somalian? In the past they've been more up front if they thought it was an act of terrorism. Of course it is still a line of enquiry because ruling it out completely would be stupid - the are looking for a motive. It may be mental issues or they may just be calling it mental issues as they did with Graeme Howar at first.
     
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    Well, either Benjamin or a mod changed the thread title pretty quickly.

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    I'm gong to suggest you edit the beginning of your post, otherwise I suspect you might get a number of "what do you mean?" Responses. With the title now just Knife Attack in London, it's makes your comment a little confusing.

    Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    Credit to the police and bystanders for preventing this guy injuring and killing more people. Condolences to the American woman's family for their loss too. Sadly it looks like inspiration has been drawn from the terrible events of late.
     
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    Scotland Yard confirmed that 'terrorism is one possibility being explored at this stage'.
     
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    That has been the statement all day. They did confirm before lunch that the guys residence was searched and they have found no evidence of links to terrorism though. He was apparently known to the authorities for mental health issues.
     
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    Right because only Muslims do bad things to other's.
     
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    Reinforcement that if you want to kill a lot of people you need a gun.
     
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    Of course it is a possibility, just like mental illness is another (and according to the police a more likely) possibility.
    Ironically you seem to be desperately wanting this to be a terrorist attack to give you fuel for another anti-Muslim rant.
     

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