That's exactly what they're doing.
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Kuo: iPhone 12 Models Won't Include Charger in Box, 20W Power Adapter Will Be Sold Separately
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That's exactly what they're doing.
Need a charger? Add one to your purchase. Don't need a charger? You're all good then.
I can see why some might not like this but I don't have a problem with this. Apple's chargers aren't nearly as small or nice as the Anker Nano ones for example. Also, many iPhone owners are on their third or more phones so the cables and the weak 5w chargers add up and are wasteful. Maybe Apple should allow people to pick them up in the store for free. That would be a good compromise as most people don't need them.
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A $15 charger on a $600-1,200 phone really shouldn't break the bank.
I'm skeptical as well. It could be Apple is just testing the waters so to speak on forums just like this one to gauge feedback
It’s somewhat reminiscent of the outrage over the rumoured removal of the headphone jack back in 2016. This feels less like Apple testing the waters, and more like Apple knowing it’s a done deal, and getting the outrage out of the way by making people angry now so that by the time they do announce the removal of the charging brick, the anger will have already turned into grudging acceptance.
10-20 years ago when a vast majority of people didn't have a mobile phone it made sense to include it. Sure, I'd like it if they included it too but the point about it being wasteful if it's your 3rd-6th phone in the last 10 years and they are stacking up in your house is a good one.
...and void your warranty so if something goes wrong with it, you're screwed. Apple voids warranties for those who use 3rd party chargers.
I suspect this would only pertain to the non-Pro models, seeing they just started offering the 18W charger last year with the Pro models.
I still think it would be a terrible move by Apple.
What a load of environazi b.s. - we've heard these lies for decades. Apple has the ability to make all hardware packaging recyclable, included the plastic on the AC adaptors however they choose not too to push more lies. There's a word for this "manipulation".
Exactly what I was going to say.
I wonder how many existing customers already have chargers/adapters/cables and how many they have?? I've got at least 2-3 at home, 1-2 that are with me in my laptop bag and then one that I leave plugged in the adapter in my car.
I have too many. Mostly usb hubs that I use to charge my multiple Apple devices at home, work and the rare occasion I travel. A couple of chargers with one usb-c and one usb-A port, and a recent one with 2 USB-C and 2 USB-A ports from Anker.
Some will argue that this is a situation Apple has been setting us up for quite some time now due to their stubbornness in sticking with the 5w charger for the longest time (hence forcing most customers to have moved on to better alternatives by now).
But the underlying point still stands - most customers will have something far better than the 5w charger. Maybe that’s what Apple will do - include only a usb-c to lightning cable for the cheaper phones (ie: the iPhone 12). The more expensive iPhones still come with the 18w or 20w charger, because that’s a pretty decent charger, and still far from being the norm.
Well yeah we have two ipad pros in the house so have power brick for USB C to lightening plus the 18w which came with my iPhone 11 Pro....and seeing as im on annual upgrade i won’t need to hand in my power brick so really I’m glad i wont have yet another brick in my work bag but granted i know everybody does not have the same amount of devices as i do.
I think in the end, Apple will offer the new 20 W USB-C charger for US$9.99 to USA customers if they buy it with an iPhone 12 model. The whole no charger with the phone issue is moot if the iPhone 12 Pro models charge reasonably fast with a 12 watt/2.4 ampere USB-A to Lighting charging connection, one found on Apple's own iPad charger and many third party (aka Anker and Aukey) USB-A chargers.
Samsung to Follow Apple and Stop Offering Power Adapters With Smartphones Next Year
Samsung does not plan to include chargers in the boxes of some of its smartphones starting in 2021, according to Korean site ETnews (via The Verge). ...
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This following Apple into the abyss of stupidity is ridiculous.WELP.... There ya go...Samsung to Follow Apple and Stop Offering Power Adapters With Smartphones Next Year
Samsung does not plan to include chargers in the boxes of some of its smartphones starting in 2021, according to Korean site ETnews (via The Verge). ...
I'd also be interested in learning if this is true. But somehow, I doubt it. I just went back to Apple's website and checked listings for Belkin and Anker chargers. Apple does tell you that these third-party chargers are not warranted by Apple and any service or support for them must come from Belkin and Anker. But it says nothing about Apple's warranty on its own product being voided if these third-party chargers are used. I don't know what Apple would say about using a no-name, non-UL-approved charger that was picked up off Amazon or in the check-out line at a local convenience store.
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It’s not true ?
Not only doesn’t Apple void your warranty if you use third party chargers, they’re actually perfectly happy to sell them to you, as you note.
There are two issues with this.
One is that it comes from Kuo and Barclays, who have investment dollars driving their analysis. The other is that the cable will be Lightning to USB-C rather than the usual Lightning to USB-A.
Because of these two things, I think the rumour is true. The decision was made. But there will be an eleventh-hour change of plan at Apple and the charger will be included but changed from USB-A to USB-C on the brick.
One is that it comes from Kuo and Barclays, who have investment dollars driving their analysis. The other is that the cable will be Lightning to USB-C rather than the usual Lightning to USB-A.
Because of these two things, I think the rumour is true. The decision was made. But there will be an eleventh-hour change of plan at Apple and the charger will be included but changed from USB-A to USB-C on the brick.
The iphone SE 2020, could be the last iphone to include a charger. It could be Apple's stance going forward that iphones will not include a charger.
Or for all we know, Apple just changes the packaging and included accessories of the SE after a certain cut-off date.
Personally, I wouldn't mind swapping the bundled lightning cable and 5w charger for a usb-c to lightning cable.