Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Crops to Rot in Fields

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  1. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    maybe they should bus in coal workers.

    http://www.independent.com/news/201...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
     
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    Two things to fix it. End handouts. Two; farmers could always pay more.
     
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    hmm farmers find americans can't do the job well and don't work hard enough. and of course Love the raise the wages thing cause how often that get shot down?
     
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    Well pay low wages, get low grade workers. Pay higher wages get better workers. That or they can continue to do what they are now, complain that they can't find modern day slaves and lose millions of dollars in wasted produce.
     
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    er, they lost 13 million, either they pay what the job is worth or they keep losing money, it's their neck on the line.
     
  7. steve knight thread starter macrumors 68020

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    who are they going to pay? first you have to have workers willing to do it. even more money will not get Americans to do this back breaking work and do it well. but then they loose even more money because they can't sell overpriced produce.
     
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    Then find a different, more profitable crop.
     
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    I'm sorry, did the illegals get deported already that you are yapping about Americans not doing the work?


    funny as hell liberals yap about living wages and here you are saying that people wont buy the products because paying a decent wage will raise the price so no one wants to buy :D
     
  10. steve knight thread starter macrumors 68020

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    funny how you conservatives:rolleyes: saying raising wages won't help.
     
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    it's called supply & demand Steve, NO ONE SAID PAY EVERYONE MINIMUM WAGE, not one conservative has said that IMHO, you get paid what you are worth.
     
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    Umm in this thread I said raise wages until you find someone willing to do the labor.
     
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    what happens if thats the point where it costs less to let it rot?
     
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    Post #8 applies
     
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    Pretty sure in this instance wages aren't the issue. The issue is there aren't enough workers that know how to do the job. Farming today isn't like in the cartoons. Those tractors and machines are super high tech and complicated.

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    Every play Farming Simulator? It's no joke. I think it's entirely reasonable that these jobs require at least 5 years of experience, or 1 or 2 years of relevant education in a technical / trade school.

    Doesn't matter how high the wages are, if there are 10,000 qualified workers and the market needs to fill 50,000 jobs with those workers, there will be losses and inefficiencies.

    Raising wages today might draw more to learn the skills and enter this labor market next year or the year after, but nothing will solve the problem today except importing labor from abroad.
     
  17. steve knight thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I think the word you are looking for is government subsidized crops right? farming is not high profit for most small guys.
     
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    No. Get the government out of it.
     
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    Are you trying to argue that it's morally acceptable to take advantage of Hispanic illegals, by paying them less and under the table? Taking advantage of human beings like that is just wrong. This can be construed as a form of modern day slavery, by exploiting desperate poor illegals.
     
  20. steve knight thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I don't think you know much about farming in the us. it costs the taxpayer about 20 billion a year.
     
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    Then the Midwest will have the same issues as well.
     
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    Problem is without subsidies farmers wouldn't bother growing less profitable crops. Without subsidies, all farmers would grow like half a dozen of the most profitable crops, and nobody would grow the less profitable crops. So we would have to import from abroad all those less profitable crops.

    Without subsidies:
    The US would become more dependent on foreign imports, which is bad.
    The US would become more vulnerable to a bad growing season or blight, which is also very bad.
    The US consumers would send more money abroad, which is bad.
     
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    They're not gonna pay more unless they can charge more for their crops. A lot of big farms WILL let crops rot in the field rather than sell them for pennies in profits or at a loss. They're willing to constrain supplies to boost demands.

    A business man once asked me, "How many bottles of water is ideal if you have 5 thirsty customers?" I thought the obvious answer is five, one for each customer. Nope. The ideal number is 4, that way you can wring the most money out of the four willing to pay. I lack the moral ambiguity to be a good businessman.:oops:

    Lots of profit in Mary Jane, but it's illegal in most states.:D
     
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    Of course, but would you pay more?
     
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    That's just terrible, man.
     

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