Libya Getting Out Of Control

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  1. skunk macrumors G4

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12516156
    This is getting worse and worse. :mad:
     
  2. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    the violence in Libya, Iran and elsewhere continues to spread as people join in the demands for the end of these authoritarian regimes

    Libya

    Iran

    Morocco

    perhaps some progress for protesters in Bahrain
     
  3. ender land macrumors 6502a

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    Going to be an interesting few weeks or months...
     
  4. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    There is a real problem getting info from Libya.However from the numbers of reports that reinforce each other we can be sure the situation in Benghazi is very grim and that Tripoli is also in dire straits.Death of a 18 month old child confirmed,Gadaffi,'s house in Zawia burnt to the ground and protesters heading for Tripoli.Various people trying to get medical supplies from Eygpt either overland or by ship.Mercenaries from Chad,Sudan and possibly Zimbabwe committing atrocities all over.The figures for deaths are definitely much higher than those which the media is reporting.Certainly some of the protesters are armed and are resisting.At the risk of being warned over soliciting donations I would suggest (as soon as it has a name) that supporting medical aid to Libya would be a very good thing.
     
  5. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    It'll be interesting if Gaddafi survives this.
     
  6. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    The power of FaceBook ... I wonder if Zuck saw this trending.
     
  7. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Probably not. He figured social without a capital "S". ;)
     
  8. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    Possibly irrelevant but makes sense to me:

    Fighting all the gentry and fighting every priest
    The business man the bourgeois the military beast
    Marat always ready to stifle every scheme
    Of the sons of the arse licking dying regime

    We've got new generals our leaders are new
    They sit and they argue and all that they do
    is sell their own colleagues
    And ride upon their backs
    Or jail them
    Or break them
    Or give them all the axe
    Screaming in language that no one understand
    Of the rights that we grab with our own bleeding hands
    When we wiped out the bosses
    And stormed threw the wall of the prison you told us would outlast us all

    Marat we're poor
    And the poor stay poor
    Marat don't make us wait any more.
    We want our rights and we don't care how
    We want a revolution
    Now!!
     
  9. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    What is happening in Libya is beyond atrocious. I admire the courage of those men and women.
     
  10. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    The demonstrations have spread to Tripoli now. A general has defected, and the Libyan envoy to the Arab League. Gaddhafi's days are numbered.
     
  11. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    I'm stunned by both the Gaddhafi sanctioned violence and the sheer number of protesters.
     
  12. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    CNN's latest:

     
  13. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    the sooner the better
     
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    Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    I just watched Saif Gadaffi's speech on Libyan state T.V.,very odd he at one point stated (bizarrely) that there were thousands of European youth busting a gut to import thousands of doses of E into Libya to corrupt the youth.This has gone too far,it's either revolution or death.Those with control over the oil supply are saying either the killing stops or in the morning the taps are off.Six month price of oil about to sky rocket,shares in BP about to nose dive.His speech came after persistent reports there was a gun fight between him and his brother.Citizens in Benghazi have control of tanks (if you can drive a bulldozer you can drive a tank).We are all Libyans now.

    (Werfalla tribe coming out in support of Gadaffi)

    (the above may not be true many Werfalla are in the revolutionary guard but the mass of them are still supporting the revolution)

    Sorry withdraw all that Werfalla still on side of revolution,twitter rumour run mad.
     
  15. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    This constant changing of nationalities is getting quite disorientating... :)
     
  16. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    To an Internationalist this is all straight forward.:)
     
  17. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Gaddafi's days are unfortunately not numbered, he's held a solid reign of power in Libya for decades, and while protests break out, it's not like Egypt where the majority of people despise him - he has brought (While brutally so) a lot of money into his nation. I'm not saying I'm on the wacko's side, however he is the lesser of several evils in the region, and unlike North Korea, his son is far more Westernized than his father and will be a good thing for the region when he takes power.
     
  19. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    Phd at LSE and a major prick (friend of Mandy) if you lose the support of the tribes in Libya you're ****ed and they've managed that big time.
     
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    As soon as I heard this on BBC this evening, I thought to myself that the jig is up for Gaddafhi. Should still be an interesting end game to watch though.
     
  21. joepunk macrumors 68030

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    Jessus Krist!!! :eek:

    His days are definitely numbered. He may not get overthrown but the actions taken on civilians is not going to be forgotten for a very long time. No concession speech of any kind will stop the protesters.
     
  22. Neolithium macrumors 6502a

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    First thing I noticed on the new updates, is that his son is the one appealing to the public to take time to let democratic reforms take over. Saif Al-Islam is actually a level head among his sons, and could potentially be a useful leader in Libya.
     
  23. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Saif Al-Islam is a twat. His speech was the rambling of a lunatic. How on earth he got a PhD from the LSE I can only imagine.
     
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    I'm sure the possibility of a huge grant in the future tended to slant the examiners views.LSE busily back pedalling over their connections to the Gaddafi family as I type.

    http://www2.lse.ac.uk/newsAndMedia/news/archives/2011/02/libya_funding.aspx
     
  25. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    To be honest I'd be surprised if Qadaffi is still in power at the end of this week.

    Portions of the military are defecting, there are indications that the "security forces" have dissent within their ranks, a major city is in the hands of the protestors, as is military hardware.

    Plus, the sheer numbers of the protestors are staggering. They won't be able to kill ALL of them, they can certainly put an end to this by killing a large portion of them, but that will turn Libya into even more of pariah than it ever was previously.
     

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