London car bomb attempt

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  1. Queso macrumors G4

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    Looks like the UK's ability to spawn incompetent terrorists hasn't been dampened by the rain. This morning at 2am a Mercedes car containing an explosive device based on gas cylinders crashed in London's Haymarket, close to Leicester Square and Piccadilly Circus. The driver immediately got out and ran away, and thanks to a passer-by reporting the incident the Police soon discovered the home-made bomb and cordoned off the area. So far official statements are conflicting with Government sources claiming a relatively small device was involved but police spokesmen describing what looks like quite a nasty nail bomb. Anyway, it's been disabled so it's safe to go to Tiger Tiger tonight if you're chavilly inclined :p

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    It is good that they found this device. Imagine if the person had just driven normally, I mean if I had a massive bomb in my car I would drive pretty safely. Hopefully this will provide enough evidence to track down the people behind the plot.
     
  3. Queso thread starter macrumors G4

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    Yeah, there's CCTV cameras all over Haymarket so I suspect they'll be releasing pictures of the driver soon enough. Has to be someone from north London though. The silver Mercedes is a big giveaway ;)
     
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    What I find worrying about this story is that the so-called 'experts' on BBC News 24 have already decided that it was an Islamic terrorist plot.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    I recall in the 70's that an IRA bomber was caught when parked in a no standing zone.

    This does look very amateurish.

    No need to roll your eyes, because they haven't.
     
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    Oh, but they have.

    Apparently this is a new techique imported from Iraq.

    But nobody panic, OK!
     
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    @BoyBach

    No, you must have misunderstood. You'll need to provide at least a name. The bbc has been very careful to not even mention the word 'Islam' on their website in regard to this story.
     
  8. iGav macrumors G3

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    I think it's an almost certainty that the driver bottled it.

    Really... we need to start sharpening and polishing up the spikes at the tower ready for these folk as a deterrent. :D

    Well... it's certainly not the Irish anymore.
     
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    He is not talking about the website he is talking about the TV channel BBC News 24
     
  10. iGav macrumors G3

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    They've only suggested that this technique is currently used in Iraq, and that it may well be of extremist or fundamentalist origin because of this (and that the relative ease of construction because the main ingredients can be sourced from any hardware store).

    Considering the current climate, I'd consider it a fair suggestion to make.

    Had the IRA still being targeting us, it would also have been fair to suggest that it could've been them as well.
     
  11. dogbone macrumors 68020

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    I've been listening to the live bbc report since the story broke and heard no mention of it being attributed to Islamic terrorists by anyone.

    EDIT: it is the website but it's a TV feed.
     
  12. BoyBach macrumors 68040

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    So far as I can remember:

    A reporter named Tighe who is the Home Affairs Correspondent has made allusions to it.

    Some 'Terrorist Expert' whose name escapes me (but it sounded Polish) and a former 'Scotland Yarder' have mentioned things along the lines of "Islamic Terrorists", "all the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda", "technique widely used in Iraq", and so on.

    Frank Gardener has said that his sources have told him that "international elements" were involved.
     
  13. dogbone macrumors 68020

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    Well this is very different to...

    isn't it.

    But anyway, what point are you making? Seeing as the IRA is out of business with regards to bombing London, is there something wrong with suggesting similarities of method with methods used by Islamic terrorists?
     
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    No it isn't.



    Yes, there is something wrong with it. It is pure speculation and not fact.

    Why Islamic terrorists when the last 'Nail Bomb' - we now know that that is what the 'device' was - was used by a far-right extremist and was aimed at a gay nightclub?
     
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    Come of it. Both quotes are from you.

    What precisely is wrong with the BBC news doing their job?
     
  16. jimN macrumors 6502a

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    The website specifically mentions the 'Irish' as not ruled out at this stage. And what's wrong with suggesting it's likely to be Islamic terrorists, the the current climate it most likely is.
     
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    Perhaps the car broke down before it reached it's intended destination.
     
  19. dogbone macrumors 68020

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    Except that "the last nail bomb" was in london on 7/7 the anniversary of which, is the coming week.

    "A number of bombs and components, some packed with nails to cause death and maximum injury, were recovered from a car parked by the July 7 bombers at Luton station." link
     
  20. Queso thread starter macrumors G4

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    It still does give other possibilities. Let's just wait and see what the CCTV footage shows.
     
  21. dogbone macrumors 68020

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    Let's just wait and see what the CCTV footage shows.

    er...isn't that what we are doing, (as well as the forensic evidence) btw why can't boybach answer for himself? Particularly what is wrong with the BBC doing their job.
     
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    In the uk currently i see no problem with mentioning it could be in the name of islam etc.

    We are very hated and have just given a nod towards a very hated author, i think when there is a good chance you know the cause then you can make a assumption.

    BBC would not be able to report on anything at all if they listened to all the pc crowd!
     
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    If you're all into the terrorist group theory instead of the single gunman theory, Spanish newspapers reported this morning that "ETA" recently stole the same kind of materials that were used to make the bomb in London, (I don't know how the newspapers already knew the kinds of materials used?). So, I'm getting really paranoid and thinking ETA working with Islamic extremists:eek:

    Seriously though, scary situation and I'm glad nothing came out of it.
     
  24. Queso thread starter macrumors G4

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    I'd chalk that one up to baseless sensationalism myself. The police haven't released any details about the timing device yet. The rest of the stuff can be purchased easily.
     
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    @killerrobot

    Nothing exotic has been mentioned yet, just commonly available items.
     

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