Louisiana Police Officer Suggests Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Be Shot In Facebook Post

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I don't see why police would support Trump, or why Trump would support police departments. The Trump party is anti-union which would include the police unions. The Trump party is against all socialism of any kind. Since police departments are taxpayer funded, they are a form of socialism. So by that logic, police departments should be abolished.
I think you understand neither socialism nor capitalism, nor the role of the police in your own country.

First, the presence of a government, government departments and taxes, have nothing to do with any particular form of government. The absence of all those things would basically be anarchy, a state of affairs which is not compatible with modern version of socialism or capitalism, both of whom are based on accumulation of centralised power.

Second, the police professional gangs are not exactly the same as union practices by most organised labour. Police “unions” are never cracked down on by the government and they have privileges and benefits denied to all other workers. Their members also operate with total lawlessness. This because the police in this country are used by the rich to crack down on and control the poor, so they are tools. That’s not a “socialist” operation - it’s one birthed right here in the USA under capitalism.

That’s how you get a state of affairs where an elected official fighting for the masses is being threatened by a police officer - and his quality of life will not really be impacted one way or another by that lawless act.
 
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And...
https://gizmodo.com/two-cops-fired-over-facebook-post-suggesting-rep-ocasi-1836623646?

Two police officers in Gretna, Louisiana have been fired over a Facebook post that suggested Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez should be killed. One of the officers published the content and another police officer liked it.

Charlie Rispoli, a 14-year veteran of the Gretna police force, shared an article on Facebook last week that included fake quotes attributed to Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. The article, which was marked as satire, contained a fake quote from Ocasio-Cortez about members of the U.S. military being paid too much.

Rispoli, apparently believing that the article was real, wrote that Ocasio-Cortez was a “vile idiot,” and that she, “needs a round, and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve.” The congresswoman was previously a bartender before she was elected to Congress.

Angelo Variscom, another officer from the Gretna PD, reportedly liked the post according to local news outlets, and both officers were fired on Monday for violating the police department’s social media policy. Gretna Police Chief Arthur Lawson called the actions an “embarrassment” at a press conference yesterday.
 

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Well I'm sure he feels like a huge idiot now, lost his job and possibly his career over a fake article that wasn't even real. I don't know why people get so emotional over politics and politicians. There's absolutely nothing you can say or write that's going to change someone's mind once they are supporting a party or a politician..... Like no matter how vile or hateful you speak of Trump you aren't going to change any of his supporters minds.... So what is the point of arguing politics and getting so emotional about it?
 
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Like no matter how vile or hateful you speak of Trump you aren't going to change any of his supporters minds.... So what is the point of arguing politics and getting so emotional about it?
The best way to change other people's minds is to NOT be vile and hateful towards them. And that goes for everyone.

Conservatives will never be able to do away with the liberal half of the country, and the same principle is true in reverse. We should be looking for ways to live and work together, not trying to pretend the "other side" are non-people we can treat like garbage and are willing to undermine at nearly any cost.
 
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Widespread violence is the next step if we keep ratcheting up the culture war. People need to calm the hell down and avoid treating their political enemies like Satan incarnate.
 
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The best way to change other people's minds is to NOT be vile and hateful towards them. And that goes for everyone.

Conservatives will never be able to do away with the liberal half of the country, and the same principle is true in reverse. We should be looking for ways to live and work together, not trying to pretend the "other side" are non-people we can treat like garbage and are willing to undermine at nearly any cost.
That's looking at things rather binary though.

It isn't just about two halves, but the many individuals within. There are plenty of conservatives that have no issue with liberals and vice versa. There are also those who are opportunistic and see opportunity in pitting the sides against one another. There are also those who's lack of identity means that they throw themselves completely into something for identity and find themselves zealots. It can be about recognizing the individuals on any side.

Was this police officer indicative of all police officers? No. So we can't paint all police as being this way. At the same time, the blind pass that many give the police as 'can do no wrong, their word comes first', shouldn't be seen as gospel as this officer proves. The officer is human, showed poor judgement, but thank goodness it was in social media. That same poor judgement in real life where it may cost a life & the default narrative that he would get away with it to possible repeat, would be way more harmful than his posts.

I think it inevitably falls on the sides themselves having recognize there are nutters in their camps, and trying to keep them in line.

Unfortunately, for some it's worth more to let them run free.
 

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Wathis police officer indicative of all police officers? No. So we can't paint all police as being this way.....The officer is human, showed poor judgement, but thank goodness it was in social media.
What does that mean? Police in the country have a century-long track record of action with minorities. Action which give a clear sense of how police perceive the value of their lives.

You’re saying the track record of police and the comments are not consistent?

Even this police department- you saying there is no indication of consistency?

You’re manufacturing a fairy fantasy world. That’s how problems stay.
 

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What does that mean? Police in the country have a century-long track record of action with minorities. Action which give a clear sense of how police perceive the value of their lives.

You’re saying the track record of police and the comments are not consistent?

Even this police department- you saying there is no indication of consistency?

You’re manufacturing a fairy fantasy world. That’s how problems stay.
No. I'm saying that the actions of ONE, do not dictate or reflect the actions of ALL.
 

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It's not secret that I'm no fan of Trump, his administration or their policies. That said I would never wish harm on them in any way, why some people let their hate get the best of them in that way is beyond me. If you don't like or agree with them, work to get the vote out regardless of what side you're on.

Police in particular have a responsibility to protect the public, they are armed and trained just for this. So when one of them makes a threat like that they have to take it seriously.
 

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It's not secret that I'm no fan of Trump, his administration or their policies. That said I would never wish harm on them in any way, why some people let their hate get the best of them in that way is beyond me. If you don't like or agree with them, work to get the vote out regardless of what side you're on.

Police in particular have a responsibility to protect the public, they are armed and trained just for this. So when one of them makes a threat like that they have to take it seriously.
Agreed on both points.
Glad the idiots were fired.
 
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I think it inevitably falls on the sides themselves having recognize there are nutters in their camps, and trying to keep them in line.

Unfortunately, for some it's worth more to let them run free.
I agree but, right now, the news cycle is binary, and the 'nutters' are the ones driving the discourse, such as it is.

It only takes a few steps to move from "X's politics are terrible," to "X is a terrible person," to "I hate X," to "X should be shot," to "I am going to shoot X." Political discourse is heading down an increasingly dark road. Threats are not new - but the extent to which they are being normalized is.
 
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No. I'm saying that the actions of ONE, do not dictate or reflect the actions of ALL.
No. I'm saying that the actions of ONE, do not dictate or reflect the actions of ALL.
That’s rather irrelevant as this particular action is very consistent with a long history of actions and mindset of this institution. If there are good eggs here the record shows they are outnumbered by the rotten ones and rarely rat them out.