LTE changed to say 4G... why? EE UK

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  1. Woomy123 macrumors regular

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    how come EE has changed the name of LTE to 4G? i thought it looked better when it said LTE? is this something to do with the doubling of speeds and if your connected to a none doubled???
     

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  2. melman101 macrumors 68030

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    I think what you are seeing is when LTE is not available it goes to HSPA+ which is what is referred to as 4G.

    I think that's what is happening to you.
     
  3. d123 macrumors 68000

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    HSPA+ has never been referred to as 4G in the UK, that only happens with the false advertising of US networks.

    It's really as simple as some bright spark at EE thought 4G was more exciting for them to use, same reason they tweet #4GEE these days.
     
  4. Woomy123 thread starter macrumors regular

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    4G and LTE are 2 differnet things though so maybe they have been made to change as LTE is misleading to the speeds EE provide as they are really much closer to 4G?
     
  5. d123 macrumors 68000

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    No, they aren't.

    LTE is classed as a 4G technology, just like UMTS (and all it's derivatives and updates) is considered 3G.
     
  6. chriscl macrumors 6502

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    My iPhone 5 on EE still flips between LTE and 4G when I walk out of my house.
     
  7. Mr.C macrumors 601

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    Just be thankful you get such a good download speed. The most I've got is just over 36 on EE 4G here in London. I typically get around 20 to 25. That said this is still faster then what I use to get on 3G. I do think LTE sounds better then 4G although I'm not so sure it was EE's decision. It may well have been Apple's decision to change it with iOS 7. I'm on iOS 6 on my iPhone 5 and I still have LTE as the designation.
     
  8. d123 macrumors 68000

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    It shouldn't, it should flick between GPRS, 3G and LTE if you haven't updated your carrier settings profile (the update went out to most customers on the 19th). After the update you should see GPRS/3G/4G.

    I've just spoken to a friend who still works at EE, he says the reason given internally was that the average customer did not understand what LTE is, and both Vodafone and Three are pushing the "4G" name in advertising so EE management decided to go with using 4G as well.
     
  9. chriscl macrumors 6502

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    Nope; I got the carrier settings update after installing the iOS 7 release.

    Oddly, when I walk out of my house, I go 'off' of WiFi, it then picks up an LTE signal and then after a few minutes further walk, switches to 4G.

    An old mast, maybe? Or something else...? Odd, either way.
     
  10. Woomy123 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Any chance u could post 2 screen shots confirming this for us? :)
     
  11. cube macrumors G5

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    LTE is not 4G. LTE-Advanced is.
     
  12. fark macrumors regular

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    Don't you have some bloated govt bureaucracy you can complain to?
     
  13. abz1981 macrumors 65816

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    Why does it matter if it says LTE or 4G. As long as your getting a good internet speed then be happy with it.
     
  14. rdy0329 macrumors 6502

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    o - GPRS
    E - EDGE
    3G - HSDPA (up to 7.2mbps)
    4G - HSPA & DC-HSPA+ (up to 42mbps)
    LTE - LTE upto 100mbps.
     
  15. KaPOWitsCHRIS macrumors 6502

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    I liked it when it said LTE. idk why, I preferred it that way. 4G just looks odd. Change it back EE, now.
     
  16. d123 macrumors 68000

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    The ITU reassessed the standard some time ago and decided to include normal LTE into the 4G standard, it is now considered 4G compliant.


    Only in the USA.

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    (Since iOS 7 the "o" doesn't apply anymore, the phone should be reporting "GPRS" now).
     
  17. Kiretas macrumors regular

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    It's quite plainly clear this is the reason.

    The networks are all trying to push the benefits of 4G, so it needs to be standardised in order for consumers to easily understand what the product is. It may be different, but that doesn't matter, if you are somebody who is savvy enough to know the difference, its likely you are the kind of person who might get more use out of it anyway.

    One example were when HD TVs were first starting to be marketed. We were told how they were HD or HD-Ready, yet the reality is that most of these sets weren't full HD@1080. So many consumers will be sat with what they believe is a full on HD TV, but its not.
     
  18. danb77 macrumors 6502

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    Yes - same reason "Airport" (remember that?!) changed to "Wifi"
     
  19. cube macrumors G5

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    No, they are not calling it 4G, they mentioned that some carriers are calling it that way.
     
  20. mikkker007 macrumors member

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    Exactly. who cares. If you're getting the speed and you're happy, who cares if they call it " 400G"
    Ahh, First world problems..:eek:

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  21. Curun macrumors 6502

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    Its not false advertising. HSPA+ = 4G

    Its internationally accepted norm, adopted by the United Nations ITU regulatory body.
     
  22. daneoni macrumors G4

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    The UK markets LTE as 4G so me thinks they've switched to 4G labeling so as not to confuse consumers.
     
  23. cube macrumors G5

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    No, that is a popular misinterpretation.
     
  24. KPOM macrumors G5

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    But when they did that they also granted Deutsche Telekom's request to include HSPA in the definition of 4G. DT wanted it because T-Mobile USA at the time was the only nationwide carrier that hadn't deployed LTE or WiMAX and thus couldn't advertise "4G".

    Also, it isn't just US telecoms who refer to HSPA as "4G". Canadian telecoms do as well.

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    Shouldn't Three change their name to "Four" now? :D

    It's interesting that Vodafone and Three pushed 4G instead of LTE in their advertising. Over here Verizon has always pushed the LTE designation, probably because they were annoyed that the GSM carriers were able to get HSPA redefined as "4G".
     

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