Mac and Windows equal in security problems

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacBytes, May 12, 2005.

  1. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    This article starts out trying to be very scathing, but the author keeps backing up until he trips over the curb and falls on his... assertion. :p
  3. Peterkro macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2004
    Communard de Londres
    I suppose a point by point rebuttal is required,but I'm tired so, TOSSER!
  4. wordmunger macrumors 603


    Sep 3, 2003
    North Carolina
    The article simply asserts that Firefox and Mac are equally vulnerable to attack compared to Windows. No evidence, other than to show that they are theoretically vulnerable. Whereas Windows has thousands of actual attacks and known weaknesses.
  5. GodBless macrumors 65816


    Jan 22, 2005
    And your proof? None.

    No read here to see about Tiger's security enhancements:

    WHAT?! Unix is just as vulnerable as poorly coded Windows to security problems?! WHAT?!

    It seemed like just after the cnet articles were getting better the eweek articles were getting worse for Mac OS X. Maybe Microsoft's contract with cnet expired and cnet didn't want to contract with them again so Microsoft contracted with eweek instead.
  6. Blackheart macrumors 6502a


    Mar 13, 2004
    I agree completely.

    It would be nice if FOR ONCE an article about computer security, and the ability to penetrate the computer, was written by someone who anything about computers.

    Hmmmm, so what he's saying is that the UNIX base does nothing to help the security of the computer? Moreover, that the systems (OS X and XP) were written the same and that's the reason for their equal security?

    If I had to take a guess, I'd say that virus writers use Linux. 1) Why would someone write a virus for their own system? 2) There are a large amount of people unhappy with MS and I have no doubt that some have taken it out on MS's OS. 3) In reference to the previous quote, wouldn't a Linux programmer know a thing or two about UNIX that would give them an edge over Mac OS X.
  7. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5


    Jun 6, 2003
    Solon, OH
    I'm having a difficult time grasping the "big picture" of that article - a sure sign that it isn't written as well as it could be.

    The author brings up some valid points, but, like mkrishnan said, trips and stumbles at the end.
  8. winmacguy macrumors 68020


    Nov 8, 2003
    New Zealand
    Thought this might get a response, that it why I labeled it as OPINION :)
    enjoy ;)
  9. dejo Moderator


    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2004
    The Centennial State
  10. x86isslow macrumors 6502a

    Aug 10, 2003
    lets avoid giving him tooo much credit… journalist? :p
  11. dejo Moderator


    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2004
    The Centennial State
    I mean that in the new definition of journalist, as supported by the EFF. That is, anybody that has written something somewhere at sometime.
  12. paulypants macrumors 6502a


    Jun 17, 2003
    Buffalo, NY
    An old and stale argument without any proof (as usual)
    Pure FUD...

    "The last few days have been embarrassing ones for Windows alternatives"

    The only thing embarrassing that I've seen is that article.
  13. daveL macrumors 68020


    Jun 18, 2003
    Is it just me or does the latest batch of "OS X Security Problems" smell at bit like Billy Boy opening his wallet to buy some bad press for Apple?
  14. SPUY767 macrumors 68000


    Jun 22, 2003
    I knew. . .

    I knew, when I saw the headlne, that this was going to be an eWeek article. They have no credibility.
  15. bryanc macrumors 6502

    Feb 12, 2003
    Fredericton, NB Canada
    The beginning of the next Astroturf campaign.

    You nailed it. Microsoft invented the Astroturf technique in the 90's and they've been buying 'journalists' for the last decade. The really sad thing is the number of pathetic losers that think they're clever pundits while they regurgitate the FUD they've been feed by Microsoft's minions, and they aren't even on Microsoft's payroll.

    I predict we'll be seeing a lot of clueless Microsoft apologists trying to hold the fort for the next year-and-a-half while Redmond tries to roll out Long-wait. When they finally do, the Microsoft thralls will probably have a fairly good OS, if you don't mind getting permission from Redmond every time you want to install software or change your hardware. But it won't be as good as Tiger, let alone 10.5, which we'll be enjoying on our Mac's by then.

    But all of this is a carefully orchestrated distraction from the main event. Microsoft is happy to milk the Windows/Office franchise for as much as it can, but it's focus has moved to from the office to the living-room and the rest of the 'digital lifestyle.' Xbox, Media Centres, Mobile systems, and the content these devices provide is where Microsoft plans to build their next hegemony.

    But they've got an uphill battle. Their brand is not something the average consumer trusts or even likes. And, unlike a computer for work, people are more emotional about their personal devices, making brand loyalty a bigger issue. On the other hand, fifty-billion dollars can buy a lot of loyalty :(

    Just some random thoughts...

  16. macnulty macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2003
    Rehoboth Beach, De
    "The barriers to entry for Mac malware are much higher, both in terms of writing it and getting it to spread. This isn't because the Mac operating system is more secure, but because there are so many fewer Macs, and fewer qualified developers."

    Honestly, I read the tile and passed on reading the article but this quote fascinated me. These two lines are a classic non sequitur. Fewer Macs or fewer developers do not create a barrier, it may create less of a incentatve. A smaller bullseye does not make it more bullet proof. Barriers may be a tougher authentication regiment or no open ports by default. It indicates an intellectual laziness, poor use of the language or just plain ignorant.
  17. mainstreetmark macrumors 68020


    May 7, 2003
    Saint Augustine, FL
    I think tomorrow's "daily" poll should be "How many viruses have you had in OSX". I'd check "0".
  18. Mav451 macrumors 68000


    Jul 1, 2003
    Lol inevitable FF spy/malware? Where is it? I will soon be using FF for 2 full years, and I don't think that all of a sudden IE-like vulnerabilities will be opening up.

    "One day in the distant, your car will break down. Yes, even a Honda." - author of eWeek article.

    He thinks [Man...I'm such a good journalist. I can tell the future.]
  19. daveL macrumors 68020


    Jun 18, 2003
    It's a reference to recent press concerning Tiger Widgets being auto-installed; it's fixed in 10.4.1, which will probably be out next week.
  20. StarbucksSam macrumors 65816


    Nov 21, 2004
    Washington, D.C.
    Oh god please just.. people are so dumb.

    Who wrote this? I didn't bother to look. How much is MS paying him?

    Snort. What a load of bullocks. I'm not even English and I say that.
  21. dotdotdot macrumors 68020

    Jan 23, 2005
    So... how much is true?

    Seriously that is about the dumbest thing about OS X i ever read.

    "Uh... Windows has 76,000 + viruses but because macs have patches for download its very insecure"
  22. slb macrumors 6502

    Apr 15, 2005
    New Mexico
    Anyone else notice eWeek has been running negative Apple articles since Tiger's release? Every time I see a negative article on MacBytes, I look over and see "" Look and see for yourself.
  23. iGary Guest


    May 26, 2004
    Randy's House
    OK, everyone here affected by malware, viruses, trojans or worms with OS X say so.


    At least Apple fixes problems BEFORE they affect users. Unlike Billy's swiss cheese OS. :rolleyes:

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