Mac OS X can not save files larger than 4GB (Torrent Download)!!

Discussion in 'macOS' started by black knight, Aug 13, 2010.

  1. black knight macrumors newbie

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    Hello Everyone,

    Thanks for the information shared in this lovely forum,

    Here is the real problem that we (MAC OS X) users are facing now.

    1- The MACINTOSH HD, is already formatted with Mac OS Extended (Journaled). BUT, I installed bit torrent and whenever I want to download a torrent file for movie or something bigger than 4GB it refused as discussed above. WHY?? In my opinion, Mac OS Extended (Journaled) is also not supporting files larger than 4G?? if this is right .....Damn to MAC then.

    2- I thought to myself, why don't I install windows XP by boot camp, and solve this problem??, but Boot camp request you to format the partition for windows with FAT32 so you can read the files when you are in MAC system, but this does not solve the problem as we still can not install files larger than 4GB. !!

    3- Even if we format the external HDs with NTFS, MAC OS X will only read them and won't save on them or amend them, So we still can not install torrent files larger than 4GB. !! (Remember FAT 32 can not read NTFS, this means that the installed version of windows by Boot camp (FAT32) can not see the external HD which is formatted as NTFS, also MAC can only read it but NOT amending or saving.

    4- What is the best solution regarding the information I have posted above. Please note I am using MacBook Pro 13" with Mac OS X.

    Apple allowed us to install windows versions on Mac Computer but they did not solve the problems of the large files, especially files are getting bigger day by day, and also I can not understand why Mac OS Extended (Journaled) can not also read and write and save files larger than 4GB???

    Hope to hear from you soon guys

    Have a nice day
    :)
     
  2. anim8or macrumors 65816

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    You CAN save files larger than 4GB... i do it all the time!!!

    I dont know where your system is going wrong so i cannot help, but i can CONFIRM that Mac OS X formatted drives can save files larger than 4GB... torrent downloads included!!!!
     
  3. black knight thread starter macrumors newbie

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    But why??

    He refused to do this, but why also the torrent is so slow, I am using BitTorrent, it is much faster on windows, while on Mac it is sooo slow?? do you have any idea about this??

    Thanks for your prompt response
     
  4. icespace macrumors newbie

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    Of course OSX can deal with files bigger than 4GB (Mac OS Extended)
     
  5. Grannyville7989 macrumors 6502a

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    Boot Camp may format the partition to FAT32 but you can reformat it to NTFS during the installation of Windows XP.
     
  6. stujmac26 macrumors regular

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    Try paying for things, then you won't have to download large torrent files! :rolleyes:
     
  7. black knight thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for your reply,

    If this true you won't be able to see the bootcamp partition while using Mac and you can not See Mac while you are using windows. But if this is right, can your MacBook Pro still be able to boot properly?? I mean if you format NTFS??

    thx

    Thanks,

    lol, then why they invented the Torrent thing, to sit and watch it. We have to use everything in life, I will only live once man :p
     
  8. Sam1487 macrumors member

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    Your mac will be able to boot properly if you format the partition for windows to NTFS. I'm not sure why you aren't able to save files larger than 4GB on your mac side.

    You're correct that FAT32 follows the no bigger than 4GB rule, but I use my mac (and it's four hard drives) for HD video work/editing, so I too can confirm that the Mac format can handle files much MUCH bigger than 4GB.

    Try looking in disk utility to see what your mac partition is formatted too.
     
  9. black knight thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks everyone :)

    Hello,

    Thanks for the participation of everyone, the problem is solved. this was because the torrent agent (Bittorrent).

    Mac OS X now can save large torrent file because of the fastestst torrent file I have ever used and you can find it and download it through this link:

    http://www.transmissionbt.com/download.php

    Thanks for posting the mounting NTFS mounter. I download it and check if it is working properly, so I can move my large files downloaded by torrent.

    If the NTFS mounter (http://osxdaily.com/2010/04/26/mount-ntfs-volumes-in-mac-os-x-easily-with-ntfs-mounter/) I will convert my 1 TB external HD into NTFS again as it will be accessible by both Windows and MAC.

    Always the lost ring will be, using an external HD that work both with Windows and Mac and we are able then to read and write on it and transfer huge files as well.

    If anyone knows what best program that makes Mac read and write on NTFS HD and transforms big files as well.

    Thanks to all again :)

    Have a nice Day:D
     
  10. iMAVERICKam macrumors member

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    Pro tip: proofread, revise, edit, and repeat - always repeat before hitting submit.
     
  11. InfoSecmgr Guest

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    That's funny. Just saved 41+GB of Simpsons episodes from a torrent via uTorrent...worked just fine. Operator error.
     
  12. InfoSecmgr Guest

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    WTF are you on?
     
  13. kernkraft macrumors 68020

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    Just because it's torrent, it doesn't have to be illegal downloading. Torrent is also used to share all sorts of files.
     
  14. darkplanets macrumors 6502a

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    I'm going to assume a couple things...

    1) You're not very computer saavy.

    2) English is not your primary language.

    3) You don't understand filesystems.

    4) You're below 20.

    With that said, I would HIGHLY recommend that you not partake in torrenting unless you know what you're doing...read around first, learn the intricacies. There ARE threads on here (and elsewhere) that can explain security issues and the underlying principles. What you're doing right now is a high-risk activity that is liable to get you burned, bad. Torrenting has plenty of legal uses as well by the way, so it shouldn't be used as an excuse to engage in illicit activity.

    Also, as you figured out, any modern file system can save files over 4GB. (FAT32 =/= modern) If you choose the NTFS route, use Paragon NTFS for Mac, however I would recommend you do the opposite; format the external to HFS+ (Journaled of course), and use MacDrive in Windows to read the drive. You'll have much better results this way.
     
  15. littleb2005 macrumors member

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    there are plenty of software to allowed you to read to ntfs

    NTFS 3G
    Tuxera NTFS
    Paragon NTFS

    i use tuxera myself
     
  16. littleb2005 macrumors member

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    isn't that illegal or against the rules?
     
  17. iMAVERICKam macrumors member

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    Name one studio/distributor utilizing BitTorrent.
     
  18. darkplanets macrumors 6502a

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    Any Blizzard release using their downloader involves BT; open it up and look, its basically a Blizz run tracker with peers and http seeds. It's a pretty sweet setup for them, and I'm sure it cuts down on their bandwidth usage.

    Also, Linux distros.
     
  19. iMAVERICKam macrumors member

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    Blizzard is a movie studio or distributor now? News to me.

    What Linux distro producer also operates as a movie studio or distributor?

    Evidently I also have to highlight the words in the quote for you to understand, so here you go:

    Now, name one studio/distributor utilizing BitTorrent.
     
  20. spinnerlys Guest

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    While it is not a studio or big distributor, Mininova offers legal torrents of all kind, films and music most prominently, though those items are for free anyway.
     
  21. darkplanets macrumors 6502a

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    A little feisty, aren't we? This isn't some moral battle here you know, so there's no need to go on the offensive ;)

    I took your comment out of context, clearly, as I thought you were referring to any studio/distributor of any content, not specifically movies. Assuming I don't understand is pretty naive, and your snarky reply isn't exactly appropriate either. Also, your context can be a bit misleading, as right above it, and I quote...
    Obviously that isn't in the slightest misleading, and clearly distributors of other content don't count towards the legality of torrents, since you obviously think you're the all knowing white knight of legal content...

    As per your answer, some, technically, and none, practically. If you go to sites like bittorrent.com, legaltorrents, or even Vuze's integrated media browser you'll find free video content (mostly from indy sources), but there IS some video content from small studios that is out there for free. Of course it also depends on your definition of studio as well, because if size is a criterion, then no, as I said practically they don't count.
     
  22. iMAVERICKam macrumors member

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    :rolleyes:
     

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  23. darkplanets macrumors 6502a

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    Again, assuming I didn't see the above post...
    I addressed your response in regards to any studio/distributor, not specifically movies, as the second quote led me to do so, since it was stating that legal content exists for torrents. Thus my reply. Legal content does not specifically mean movies, yes? Going from a specific media to a general media thus warrants a general reply. Had you reversed the quotes, you would have warranted a specific reply about movies. Since you didn't specifically state which distributors, it therefore also goes to the general. If you can't see the semantics of it then that's fine, but don't try to be condescending towards others when it's also your failure.

    Anyways, my response still stands; studios/distributors do provide content legally via torrents, albeit not as common for video content.
     
  24. UpQuark macrumors member

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    Paragon NTFS for Mac is a really great read/write NTFS driver. It is a cost, yes, but is fast and works very reliably for me.

    BTW, I second the silliness of 4gig limit.
     

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