Mac rumor sites worm @ L.A. Times

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  1. peter2002 macrumors 6502

    Aug 1, 2002
    Dallas, TX
    Rumors Worm Around Apple

    By David Colker, Times Staff Writer

    Spies. International intrigue. High-tech gadgets. Secret informers.

    It must be time for Macworld, the annual gathering of the Apple clan in San Francisco. The trade show, beginning today at Moscone Center, is where the innovative computer company traditionally announces its new products.

    In part because Apple Computer Inc. can be more secretive than the Federal Reserve, Web sites have sprung up all over the world purporting to have inside information on what company co-founder and Chief Executive Steve Jobs will be unveiling. Then the devoted underdogs of the computer world -- Macintosh users -- passionately debate the quality of the rumors.

    The Web sites generally treat the whole matter as sport, lavishly congratulating themselves when they get something right and quietly dismissing blunders with explanations that a political spin doctor would love. Saying that Apple "pulled the product at the last minute" is the equivalent of "the dog ate my homework."

    Among this year's rumors:

    • The company will introduce an Internet videophone, based on the fact that Apple has registered the domain name "," according to the folks at But a visitor to pointed out that Apple also owns "" So maybe it will introduce a new life form.

    • Noting that Apple patented a process to make electronic devices capable of "dynamically changing" their outer appearance, posters on and other sites have been speculating that cases of future Macs will be able to change color or spell out the user's name on a whim.

    • A visitor said with confidence that the iMac would be getting a 19-inch screen. Others pointed out that it would make the computer topple over.

    More mundane predictions involve faster processing speeds and reduced prices. But anything speculators get right provides a thrill.

    "There is something about being an insider and getting some news about Apple that no one else has that is really exciting," said the founder of, who calls himself "Nick DePlume." In October 2001, he accurately predicted the imminent announcement of the iPod music player.

    "When you get something right," said Nick, a 17-year-old high school student in upstate New York, "it's just so much fun."

    Apparently, it's not the company's idea of fun. Like several other rumor sites, has been slapped with cease-and-desist orders from Apple. The most recent one came last month when Nick posted a screen shot supposedly from a major upcoming update of iPhoto, a photo editing and storage software product. He removed the image but took it as a validation.

    "I don't hear from them when it's wrong," Nick said.

    Apple declined to comment on the rumor sites. But the company has been known to take them very seriously.

    When a visitor posted a schematic drawing of a new case for the PowerMac line of computers, site founder Arnold Kim got a subpoena demanding that he give up any information on the person who posted the drawing.

    "I didn't want to get someone in trouble, but I talked to some people and they said the wisest decision was to cooperate," said Kim, 28, a medical intern at the University of North Carolina Hospitals. He gave authorities the poster's e-mail address.

    When new PowerMacs debuted in August, the drawings turned out to be correct. Last month, Apple contract worker Jose Lopez was arrested in Sacramento and charged with divulging trade secrets in connection with the case.

    Apple also is suing Lopez over the matter. Lopez's lawyer, Fidel Martinez, did not respond to a request for comment.

    "The whole thing kind of has a soap opera feel to it," said Kim, who said he knows that Mac fans around the world are checking his site daily. "With some people, this borders on an obsession."

    Kim, however, didn't want to be included in that category.

    "I don't generally admit to people that I run a Mac rumor site," he said.

    Sometimes predictions are way off base. Before last year's Macworld, predicted that Apple was about to announce an "iWalk" hand-held computer. The site even included photos and videos of the supposed device.

    No such product was announced, then or since. But there's always this year.,0,3899967.story?coll=la-home-todays-times
  2. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.

    Wow arn, you got supoened?

  3. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Re: Mac rumor sites worm @ L.A. Times

    Darn, Steve didn't announce it this time.

    Sure would have made for an interesting Digital Lifestyle Device.

  4. ibjoshua macrumors 6502a


    Jan 17, 2002
    New Zealand
    Wasn't that really obvious when Lopez was charged? I seem to remember lots of discussion about this back then.

  5. vniow macrumors G4

    Jul 18, 2002
    I accidentally my whole location.
    Well yeah, but nobody mentioned that he got supoened.
  6. Gringo macrumors newbie

    Jan 3, 2003
    South America Chile
    Now that is cool!!! But how can you get your hand on those sketches.... I mean apple is really secure in that sence... up to what I know...

  7. mcrain macrumors 68000


    Feb 8, 2002
    [don't take seriously] Hey, now that we know Arn's name and where he works, and that he's not real keen on admitting to all his friends that he runs a mac rumors website, we should all show up at his hospital sometime with a big trophy with an original mac on the top, and hold a little impromptu celebration (complete with Keynote presentation) right in the ER! [/don't take seriously]
  8. 3rdpath macrumors 68000


    Jan 7, 2002
    2nd star on the right and straight till morning
    i guess the solution is to have a person act as a rumor forwarder in a country where apple's subpoenas would have no legal power...say china, n. korea....maybe france or england might work.

    i can't believe the guy was sloppy enough to send it from a traceable e-mail location...

    apple's actions won't stop the rumors( as we've already seen) but they will take the game to a more sophisticated level.
  9. krossfyter macrumors 601


    Jan 13, 2002
    secret city

    yet another example of "way beyond the rumors"
  10. MrMacMan macrumors 604


    Jul 4, 2001
    1 Block away from NYC.
    Yeah arn, you should of lead apple on some false lead, i mean the guy was right and all... :rolleyes:

    Since we know where arn works lets show up with a 'Best Mac Rumor Site' Trophy Comeon people it is feasible. (gives credit to mcrain for the idea) Comeon people for all the hours you posted here can't you go and meet the guy?
    ;) :D

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