Don't you ever watch StarTrek Voyager? where the hell is ensign paris? he can tell you about M class planets, on last night's episode they got stranded on one. there were primatives there. Not to mention all those other alien races, and of course, lest we forget Star Wars...Originally posted by mischief
I was curious what people think about whether or not all us Fire-Apes are unique in all the universe or perhaps there are other enhabited mudballs out there.
Until we've searched every square parsec, we won't really know now will we?Originally posted by Taft
I don't know if we are alone in the universe. But if we are, it seems like an awfully big waste of space.
How could I possibly believe that? You might have misunderstood me.Originally posted by mischief
Don't let Star Trek confuse you into thinking this is a 2 dimensional Universe.
I'm no physicist, but your theory seems to be not quite accurate.Originally posted by mischief
I realized recently some things physicists love to ignore:
Light has a minute mass, therefore it must be subject to entropy over long distances.
Light is bent and even "lensed" by large gravitational fields......therefore it only stands to reason that no measurements made from DEEP within the gravity well of both our host star and our home planet can be called accurate.
It's quite likely that Light travels considerably faster in open space cuz it has no gravitational "lag". This suggests a much smaller local map than ever previously guessed.
Actually in the year or so since I first thought of this the Scientific community has been grudgingly coming to similar conclusions. Dig through Astronomy magazine for the year or do a Sherlock for "new discoveries" involving Hubble. They recently admitted that physics seems to be WAY less Universally absolute than locally viable. Also in the last year Hubble and other space tellescopes have been seeing farther than was supposed to be possible.Originally posted by Taft
I just don't think its likely that the scientific community has so seriously misjudged the distance/speed/size of celestial bodies.
It is well known that Einstein considered his lack of a unified theory his great failure. And many people are also calling into question the possibility of a unified theory given our current set of theories. But others are working on unifying electromagnetic theory and gravity through observable experiments--just to show you how diverse thought is on these subjects.Originally posted by mischief
While working on the Unified Field theory Einstein had a conversation with Imanuel Velikovski on the subject (they were contemporaries and friends) after which he burned his notes. Both men took the conversation's goings-on to their graves.
The hunt to 'view' gravity waves is a big obstacle here. We might not be able to do it effectively on the planet and have to set up something in 0-g and over huge distances, much larger than the diameter of the earth. Viewing light as it bends around distant stars won't be enough.Originally posted by Taft
But others are working on unifying electromagnetic theory and gravity through observable experiments--just to show you how diverse thought is on these subjects.
Even Stephen Hawking has vacillated about black holes (great book recommendation BTW, one of my favorites)...but until we come up with some other explanation/name for the phenomenon, we're stuck with what we have...
I've heard this, but I think some are looking in other areas for evidence. Take this:Originally posted by dukestreet
The hunt to 'view' gravity waves is a big obstacle here. We might not be able to do it effectively on the planet and have to set up something in 0-g and over huge distances, much larger than the diameter of the earth.
I saw an article in a magazine on this. But the multi-dimensionality of the universe is a really wild thing. Go look on Amazon for some of Kip Thorne's other books on the subject.Originally posted by Taft
Its not the most scientific article ever written but it shows an interesting approach to this problem.
Fun, ain't it?Originally posted by dukestreet
It would make sense why we're having such a hard time 'seeing' gravity. Ah, science and the quest for knowledge....
I've taken my share of physics classes. I called it quits at Quantum Mechanics. Some good quotesOriginally posted by Taft
It almost makes you want to be a physicist. Until you get half-way through your introductory physics class and realize you might go insane getting to the part of physics that is actually interesting.
Have you read any of the books on or by Richard Feynman? I recently read "Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman?" Its a really good read. I hear his book on physics essentials is a really good read. He seems like an incredible teacher.Originally posted by dukestreet
"I think I can safely sat that nobody understands quantum mechanics." - Richard Feynman