Mad as Hell: I'm Switching to Mac

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacBytes, May 25, 2005.

  1. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002

    So this Winn Schwartau is a self-confessed "PC bigot."

    He has worked in the information security field for 22 years.

    He has authored more than a dozen books on the subject.

    His security training company, The Security Awareness Company, has always been Windows-based. (Size unknown but there are at least 8 employees on their Contact page.)

    He has the expertise needed to keep Windows running, and as secure as is possible, with some effort and the use of a batch of third-party tools.

    Yet he's so fed up with Windows security and the effort/time needed to keep on top of it, that he switched his company to Macs.

    And the changeover took two days.

    "I also have come to the conclusion that if I'm having such security problems, heaven help the 98% of humanity who merely want a computer for e-mail and multimedia."

    His blog:

    His company site:
  3. redAPPLE macrumors 68030


    May 7, 2002
    2 Much Infinite Loops
  4. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    He's even harsher in his blog... and some of the comments made on the blog are interesting too:

    dcboyle said...

    Wow, it's like you're writing my blog.... if I were to keep one. Same thing here @ NASA. I replaced my dozen or so machines to Mac about 2 years ago. Never looked back. Measureable productivity improvement, measureable cost savings, DEFINITELY happier crew working with me.
  5. AlmostThere macrumors 6502a

    [OT]No way! Apple is the Sith - the dark side is strong with Apple.

    It is quicker, easier and more seductive (OS X, usability, cool computer designs)
    Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny (Switchers move to Apple, not from Apple)
    Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering (see thread title).
  6. solvs macrumors 603


    Jun 25, 2002
    LaLaLand, CA
    You're thinking of the prequels. Think of the original. M$ is the evil empire, perverting the Jedi way to their own destructive and controlling ways. Apple is the dwindling Jedi, trying to walk the path of light and find balance to the force. Brought down once by their arrogance, now just stuggling to survive against the mindless drones, but slowing returning to their former glory.

    God I'm a geek. :eek:
  7. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    Hmmmm.... at the top of the article, between the first two paragraphs, Network World has a prominent box featuring a link to discussion (all very Mac-positive BTW). I swear that's ALL that was in that box this morning.

    Now they've added a second featured link, to a largely irrelevant 2-day-old article with the catchy title "Shattered Mac illusions." It's an anecdote about a single person with 15,000 photos to import from Windows to Mac having problems with iPhoto. A switch story at heart, but positioned as a complaint about the unreliability of Macs.

    I wonder who at Network World felt the need to go back and link to that irrelevant anti-Mac headline? ;)
  8. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    Some links to comments on his switch... a LOT of them, including other members of his company commenting on the changeover:


    Blog entry I:

    Blog entry II:

    Funny, you won't find any rational argument against such a switch :) Just a LOT of people chiming in with their support, and a lot of intelligent debunking of anti-Mac myths.
  9. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

    Jan 6, 2004
    more and more people are seeing the light, aobut time ;)
  10. spinner macrumors regular

    Jan 16, 2002
    South Dakota
    While all this switching is a good sign, I think that there is one thing that really stands out now more than ever...opportunity. There is a huge opportunity for someone to create a new x86 based OS from the ground up, embracing all the cutting edge technologies that MS can't because of legacy issues. Both the masses and business are ready for something, anything to save them from the misery that is day-to-day computing.

    In fact, Apple could take advantage of this by releasing some sort of OS on x86, not necessarily OS X but something modified enough that it could been seen as a different product. Build in a windows emulation layer like classic on OS X and I think you would have something that could be a serious threat to MS.
  11. Qunchuy macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2002
    IBM's OS/2 (now eComStation) is still out there, isn't it?
  12. spinner macrumors regular

    Jan 16, 2002
    South Dakota
    I really don't know anything about it, but if its any good then they should start marketing it as a windows alternative now is the time. If Linux could pull together a serious effort toward home PCs they could easily milk some marketshare from the giant. The real point here is that now is the time for someone to make a real effort in windows alternatives.
  13. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    Unless people are to deal with the complexity of dual booting or two concurrent OS's (two UIs intermingled, or else quirky, inconsistent behavior when one tries to force the other to conform) then a new x86 OS would demand that people buy new software, just as when moving to Mac. (Noting, of course, that the Mac COMES with a nice bundle.)

    That leaves one real advantage to a new x86 OS: you don't have to buy a new computer--assuming (since we're talking a NEW OS) that your current hardware is fairly new and meets the reqs.

    That advantage would apply to a smaller number of people than the current Windows market share. And that advantage only lasts for a year or two--until the time when people would have bought a new computer anyway and it becomes a moot point.

    So--everyone would need new apps (which wouldn't even exist for a new OS! At least OS X has Carbon and Classic), and most people would need new hardware. Those that didn't NEED new hardware would get it anyway within a couple years.

    So you may as well get a Mac if you want to start fresh.
  14. Les Kern macrumors 68040

    Les Kern

    Apr 26, 2002
    True, and I think the future is pretty bright. One of my feeder schools decided just last year that they would make the whole school PC-based instead of a mixed platform. A year later they gave up and are buy hundreds of Macs. Why? The usual stuff: viruses, adware, malware, constant updates and hands-on fixing. They toured my setup and I gave them some demos. No viruses, no malware, updates are just not critical, and the system can just about repair itself. But the most important thing they saw was kids actually working. All of them. I showed them my servers. I have 15 Xserves and a few G4 towers. Several of the servers haven't been down in FOUR years. That's right, four years.
    It's NOT a philosophical difference as some describe the Mac/PC debate. It's about fact. The only folks who don't see the light are the willfully blind.

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