Maybe it would have something to do with being chased by angry men in plain clothes waving guns, esp. if one were carrying a nickel bag or something mildly illegal. If I were a gang leader looking to nab a rival, shouting "Freeze, police antiterrorist squad, really!" would be a good strategy.iGav said:
I completely agree with this. America's culture of firearms may have better prepared us for incidents like this. Someone's gonna get fired for this one..IJ Reilly said:Welcome to it. Now that more of your policemen are armed, expect shoot first ask questions later incidents of this kind.
If the eyewitness accounts are accurate he was wearing a heavy coat in 70 degree (F) weather. He had jumped the turnstyle and gotten on a train car. The police, not unpredictably, figured he was a suicide bomber who could have blown himself and them up no matter how many officers were on top of him. He'd still be alive if he had listened to the police.CanadaRAM said:Once he was on the ground, with three officers on him, why the hell didn't they cuff him instead of terminating him?
Did he have a weapon? Did he threaten the officers? Was he a danger to the public?
Amen to that. Do we have a description of the man who was killed?Peterkro said:Living as I do in this area, a non white person being followed by up to ten white thugs would merely be acting out of self preservation to get away as fast as possible.I'm not prejudging what happened here but it has a nasty smell to it and a lot of unanswered questions.
We want their $$$? Isn't their whole reason for coming in the first place is to get our $$$ or make their own $$$?Dont Hurt Me said:Say Hello to the Police State mentality. Everyone will be considered a terrorist first and treated as such. I wonder if Govt ever thought of monitoring the mosques and all the hate thats preached from them? Or how about just deny these extremist into the country in the first place? No its easier to treat everyone as a criminal because we want their $$$ so we will let anyone into our country first and then deal with it later.
What, it's a capital crime to be inappropriately dressed? Get real.Omen88 said:And to get back on topic. As someone already pointed out, why would you wear such a coat at such high temperature?
Why the hell would you stop if three thugs are following you in Stockwell?Why don't you stop when armed people yell stop police?
He'd been in London for 3 years. He understood perfectly well. Well enough to know that he should get away from 3 aggressive, hyped-up racist thugs, such as abound in the South London police.What the hell are you doing there (UK) when you supposedly don't understand English?
I'm guessing you're white.If I see armed men yelling at me in a tube station where there are lots and lots of people I wouldn't be running away if I didn't have something serious to hide. I can't see some gang member shooting me for no reason at all in such a crowded place.
Well I'm NOT grateful. I have many Brazilian friends, some of whom are Muslims too. Any of whom might be dead for this.You should be damn grateful to those police officers risking their lives for you! I would have acted just the same in their place. Chances were high he had a bomb.
Well if you can't understand "stop police" you may just have a problem living in an English city. But he apparently was able to speak it anyway.Peterkro said:If the Fashion police start killing people for dressing unseasonably there will be thousands of shootings in London which is probably the most multicultral city on the planet many many people don't speak english.Scots Irish and Geordies in teeshirts in January will be at risk.
Since you have retracted most of your points, I reciprocate by not replying to this.Omen88 said:So colored people have more to hide than white people?
S'okay.But again, I'm not defending their actions anymore. It shouldn't have come this far. I thought the whole thing started in the tube. My apologies.
Thanks for answering this Skunk, its the old everyone is a criminal philosophy as long as it doesnt happen to you or someone you know. Doing nothing isnt the answer and neither is creating a Police state. This is why we dont need a police state but do need some common sense in going after these fanatic religions who preach hate.skunk said:What, it's a capital crime to be inappropriately dressed? Get real.
Why the hell would you stop if three thugs are following you in Stockwell?
He'd been in London for 3 years. He understood perfectly well. Well enough to know that he should get away from 3 aggressive, hyped-up racist thugs, such as abound in the South London police.
I'm guessing you're white.
Well I'm NOT grateful. I have many Brazilian friends, some of whom are Muslims too. Any of whom might be dead for this.
Until an officer shows up in uniform, 10 plain clothes officers with guns -- might be 10 people with guns.asif786 said:and quite frankly..if 10 plain clothes police officers came up to me, and pointed guns at me..i'm not sure what i would've done --nobody know's what was running through the dudes mind before they shot him.