Mandatory Voting

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by ucfgrad93, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6

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    While I think that voter turnout in the US is pathetic, I don't think that voting should be required.

    What say you?

    http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/03/19/obama-broaches-the-idea-of-mandatory-voting/
     
  2. VulchR, Mar 19, 2015
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    I think voting should be required because there's too many people cynically sniping at the political process from the sidelines who can't be bothered to exercise their franchise. Mind you, I also believe that there should be a 'no-confidence' option and if 50% of the voters choose this option it would trigger a re-run of the election in which the previous candidates are all barred.
     
  3. aerok macrumors 65816

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    I can't wait for technology to advance far enough for people to vote from home with advanced biometric scanning. Then they'll really have no excuse not to vote.
     
  4. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I agree. I prefer voluntarism over compulsion whenever possible.
     
  5. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    Mandatory, yes. But I should be able to vote an official "no vote."
     
  6. aerok macrumors 65816

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    Of course, that also should be manditory.
     
  7. chabig macrumors 68040

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    I wonder if Obama's proposed allocates enough money to build all of the prisons necessary to house the millions of "criminals" who will choose not to vote.
     
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    remove the R' & the D's along with the names from the candidates & then let people vote based on what they have actually accomplished :D
     
  9. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    That would be assuming he wants jail or prison sentences meted out for not voting. Somehow that assumption seems a bit wild and unreasonably harsh to me. Where did you come up with it?
     
  10. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    What makes you think that it would be classified a criminal act?
     
  11. Mousse macrumors 68000

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    Major elections should be mandatory. EVERY citizen should vote for the President, their Governor, their Mayor and their Congressmen.

    The little stuff should be voluntary.
     
  12. codymac macrumors 6502

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    Perhaps the President would also like a parliamentary government?
    :rolleyes:

    Let's have a popular vote before we have a mandatory vote.
     
  13. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    My guess would be Breitbart.
     
  14. chabig macrumors 68040

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    I'm sorry, I didn't realize that English is the second language of many MacRumors members. By definition, crimes are committed when laws are broken.

    Crime n. 1. An act committed in violation of law

    Of course, the law could be written so there is no punishment for law breakers, but then such a law is pointless.
     
  15. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Please.

    There are many violations of the law that don't carry jail or prison sentences.
     
  16. sigmadog, Mar 19, 2015
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  17. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Like congressmen.

    I would like to se a run off vote, if a person doesn't get 70% of the vote we start over.
     
  18. APlotdevice macrumors 68040

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    http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htm
    "What happens if I do not vote?
    After each election, the AEC will send a letter to all apparent non-voters requesting that they either provide a valid and sufficient reason for failing to vote or pay a $20 penalty.

    If, within the time period specified on the notice, you fail to reply, cannot provide a valid and sufficient reason or decline to pay the $20 penalty, then the matter may be referred to a court. If the matter is dealt with in court and you are found guilty, you may be fined up to $170 plus court costs and a criminal conviction may be recorded against you."
     
  19. mobilehaathi macrumors G3

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    Thanks for reminding me why I don't come around here too often.

    ref
     
  20. chown33 macrumors 604

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    It doesn't say that those convicted go to prison. A person can be convicted of a misdemeanor crime, thus having a criminal conviction recorded against them, while receiving a sentence of a fine, community service, or probation.

    The conviction is separate from the sentence.
     
  21. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Well, those are wimpy Australians.

    In America, it's go big or go home.

    Remember, we can't compare ourselves to any other culture, and clearly can't learn anything from them.

    So I'd expect nothing but long prison terms ... probably even the death penalty.
     
  22. APlotdevice macrumors 68040

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    I know, that's my point.
     
  23. TheAppleFairy macrumors 68020

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    Wouldn't it be hard to keep track of who voted? Since minorities apparently don't have identification?
     
  24. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    A casual reader might construe this as racist. More informed readers know it is.

    As you are no doubt aware, voter ID laws affect students and the elderly just as much.
     
  25. TheAppleFairy macrumors 68020

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    Every debate in this forum about voter ID laws goes back to the liberal complaining that voter ID laws are racist laws in order to disenfranchise minorities. We know that is just an excuse they use but it is always the left who claims minorities won't be able to vote because many of them do not have ID.
     

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