Masterfoods puts animal product in chocolate - Mars, Snickers, Maltesers etc

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by miniConvert, May 15, 2007.

  1. miniConvert macrumors 68040


    Mar 4, 2006
    Kent, UK - the 'Garden of England'.

    I actually heard this on the radio the other day. Basically:

    Masterfoods chocolate confectionary, including the massively popular Mars bars and Maltesers, but also most of their other snacks including Twix, has until now been suitable for vegetarians.

    What's rennet?
    Ok. So even at my local Sainsburys almost all of the cheese can still be produced with vegetarian-friendly rennet, but due to something as trivial as a change in supplier Masterfoods confectionary now contains 'a chemical sourced from calves' stomachs'?!?

    Sorry if this all seems a bit abstract. I can imagine that most people probably don't give a damn. In fact, there may even be vegetarians reading this thinking 'you know, it's a chocolate bar, and I'm still going to eat it'. But don't you agree that it's completely crazy that a completely vegetarian set of products, all massively popular in the UK, contain an animal product from 1st May? Don't you also think it's out of line that Masterfoods didn't let us know this was the case for two weeks after the new products went on sale?

    I hate to quote the vegetarian society, but I think they've summed it up quite well:
  2. Queso Suspended

    Mar 4, 2006
    Ah well, yet another chocolate manufacturer to boycott (I still haven't forgiven Cadbury's for lying about the salmonella). With any luck Mars will get a 20% drop in sales and they'll reverse this stupid step.
  3. miniConvert thread starter macrumors 68040


    Mar 4, 2006
    Kent, UK - the 'Garden of England'.
    I was kinda thinking that. I love Maltesers but I wont be eating them anymore. The unnecessary introduction of a chemical sourced from a calf's stomach is just a bit too gross for me!

    All in the name of cutting costs, no doubt.
  4. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    Sign me up for the " I don't care group"

    Well...I still kind of do. It is a bummer for Vegitarians, but who knows how far this news will go. Possible some vegiatarns will never know
  5. Queso Suspended

    Mar 4, 2006
    When you remember just how much confectionary still has gelatin in it, it's not that surprising. Pretty disgusting though when you think about it. I'm just hoping the Snickers bar I ate over the Bank Holiday weekend was old stock.


    I've had people e-mailing me and telling me this news since yesterday. Believe me, everyone who knows a vegetarian is making sure they get told.
  6. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    I fall into the do not care group.

    Damn vegetarians, where will it stop? Next, they'll want to be able to marry. :p
  7. Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    I doubt that would happen. I'm also in the "I don't care" group.

    The reason is because I don't believe anybody owes their customers anything for the life of existence of that product. Nobody ever geared these products towards vegetarians. Not like they had advertising aiming towards the "for vegetarian" crowd. I certainly never knew whether their product was vegetarian or not, and I'm not sure if they ever promised anything. It's their product. If nobody likes the change, then nobody would buy the product. However, in this case, I don't think many people will notice or care, and the market won't be any less profitable than it is now.
  8. SamIchi macrumors 68030


    Aug 1, 2004
    So what the crap? Why does a chocolate company need to announce their change in products they use? If a vegetarian wants to know if a product is "animal free" well they can ask the company and find out.
  9. redeye be macrumors 65816

    redeye be

    Jan 27, 2005

    Rennet was my excuse for not liking cheese. I for one am not going to tell my friends they started using it to make maltesers.
  10. eyemacg5 macrumors 6502


    Sep 14, 2006
    Derbyshire, England
  11. mactastic macrumors 68040


    Apr 24, 2003
  12. NATO macrumors 68000


    Feb 14, 2005
    Northern Ireland
    Well I'm not vegetarian, although I do have sympathies with those who are vegetarian due to their views on the cruelty to animals etc and as such, I'm not going to buy any more of their products. There's plenty of other companies who don't use these animal extracts and their products taste good too.
  13. paleck macrumors 6502a


    Apr 11, 2005
    with the Tequila!
    You know...I'll probably avoid it for a while, but only because the last thing I wanted to know was that candybar I am eating might have come from calve's stomach. :rolleyes:
  14. joepunk macrumors 68030


    Aug 5, 2004
    a profane existence
    Well sign me up for the "I care list" even though I am not a vegetarian.

    I care because I would like a food company to let me know if say they use say for example Trans-fats or not.

    I am always amazed as to the amount of stuff that goes into foods. Can't they just leave chocolate as it is and not use animal byproducts, or salt, or corn syrup, or carnauba wax, or resinous glaze, or artificial colourings.
  15. aprilgrey34 macrumors member

    May 7, 2007
    Why can't they use...
    vegetarian rennet?
    "Rennet derived completely from fungal, bacterial, or floral sources rather than from livestock. The cardoon thistle, for example, is often used as a source of vegetarian rennet."
  16. CanadaRAM macrumors G5


    Oct 11, 2004
    On the Left Coast - Victoria BC Canada
    To put this in perspective, animal source rennet is processed from the 4th stomachs of calves that have been slaughtered for veal. You may legitimately object to veal production in general, but don't imagine that the rennet is being extracted from live calves' stomachs...

    Ahh, but there;s the rub -- most of the packaged candy you buy isn't chocolate, in fact, it has so many additional ingredients, and so little cocoa butter that it can;t legally be sold as chocolate. You'll notice it;s called "Candy bar" and "Chocolaty Candy" or Chocolaty Coated Bar" or "Chocolate-flavoured something" to avoid the word "chocolate", which would obligate them to use much more expensive 'real' chololate ingredients.
  17. AoWolf macrumors 6502a


    Nov 17, 2003
    Daytona Beach
    I fit into the 'don't give a damn' category.I'm not bothered by animals being killed to feed me, happens in the "Natural" world every day. I'm not bothered that they changed products to save money if people do not like it they will stop buying. The fact that it comes out of a calves stomach just doesn't get to me either. I don't eat any large number of candy bars and our food comes from some pretty odd places.
  18. SkyBell macrumors 604


    Sep 7, 2006
    Texas, unfortunately.
    Derived from CALVES stomachs?

    That's it, I'm going vegetarian.
  19. pseudobrit macrumors 68040


    Jul 23, 2002
    Jobs' Spare Liver Jar
    Maybe because they've been told before and assumed it was acceptable, and since the status quo has changed, it's unethical to not inform your customers.

    Also, many Hindus would find calf products in their food objectionable.

    If you're going to eat chocolate, get the real stuff with high percentage, quality cacao and avoid this junk food that masquerades as chocolate.
  20. Koodauw macrumors 68040


    Nov 17, 2003
    Its not a huge deal for me, as I dont eat much of these products, but if I had the choice to choose from rennet free, or those they offer now, I'd go the free route.
  21. shecky Guest


    May 24, 2003
    Obviously you're not a golfer.
    i like my rennet with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
  22. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    As long as it still tastes the same I really don't care.
  23. katie ta achoo macrumors G3

    May 2, 2005
    Ah, this is bum news. :(
    I'm a vegetarian and I'm always skimming labels, making sure I'm not inadvertently eating things I make a conscious effort NOT to. Bleh.

    Picture 1.jpeg

    Poor cow. Look at how cute he is! His tongue is sticking out! Adorable!!

    But now he's in my chocolate, as is explained in his pic. ;_; :(
  24. bartelby macrumors Core


    Jun 16, 2004
    He'd look better in my bread roll!
  25. miniConvert thread starter macrumors 68040


    Mar 4, 2006
    Kent, UK - the 'Garden of England'.
    Just for the record:

    They did use vegetarian rennet.

    The products have, afaik, always been suitable for vegetarians.

    They changed suppliers. The new supplier does not use vegetarian rennet. Their products became unsuitable for vegetarians overnight.

    We find out two weeks later :(

    lmao @ katie ta achoo! :p

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