McCain: I hope Castro dies soon

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  1. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Open mouth, insert foot:

    Let's hope this isn't an example of the kind of finesse with which McCain would handle foreign relations as president, shall we?
     
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    He may have white hair, but he does not have a silver tongue.
     
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    I'm sure we can all imagine the apoplectic fury of the right-wing chatterers if Castro or Chavez had said they hoped Bush met Reagan soon.

    I mean, they could hardly contain their blind rage when Chavez called Bush a devil. Imagine if he had wished him dead...
     
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    Are Karl Marx and Reagan really in the same leave of thinking?

    I'd put Marx above Reagan any day.
     
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    Doesn't McCain claim to be a Christian? What happened to Love the sinner, hate the sin? :confused:
     
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    That made his mouth even bigger......next time he can insert both feet at once.



    Bless
     
  7. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    shows how ignorant he is on the subject too. not only is it a stupid thing to say, the 'communism' that reigned over cuba (and the soviet union for that matter) were never what Marx really wanted in the first place.

    and it just shows how petty, and small you are, hoping that someone dies.
     
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    Pretty easy math on this one. No diplomatic relations means an easy opportunity for some tough talk.

    Outside core policy wonks who don't actually have to be won over as such, there are pretty much three major lobes of the GOP to appeal to: the rich, the religious and the bullies. McCain has the rich. He can't have the religious until Huckabee bows out. That leaves the bullies, the group who most think McCain isn't Republican enough. He's begun making calculated plays for this group. Softening his opposition to torture was one such. Openly wishing for the death of Fidel Castro is another.
     
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    I know you got peeved at me earlier for thinking you were a republican and I apologized for that but. Why would you hope McCain doesn't think that way in foreign relations? Are you expecting him to win the presidency ?

    It's an honest question so sorry if it ruffles your feathers again. Sincerely .
     
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    Do you chide liberal extremists who call for the death of President Bush?
     
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    I've never seen anyone on this forum that could be even described as 'a liberal extremist', let alone anyone calling for anyone's death. Liberal extremist strikes me as a completely oxymoronic statement.
     
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    I consider myself very liberal and as much as I believe certain things about Bush I would never wish death for any human being.
     
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    i don't know what a liberal 'extremeist' is, but i don't think anyone should be hoping for another person to die. i might have at one point in my life, but i've grown since then and i realize that someone's death solves absolutely nothing.
     
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    Looks like an extremist to me.
     

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    If I knew who he was, I'd chide him. Does he subscribe to this forum?
     
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    Well, he's wrong to wish death upon Bush. But there is a notable difference:

    One is a public figure that will more likely than not be the Republican presidential candidate.

    One is not.

    Now maybe you can admit that it wasn't wise for McCain to say what he did.
     
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    Not a liberal one. Calling for people's deaths strikes me as a fascist and authoritarian act... the term 'liberal' is so clearly inadequate as a political term as used by many Americans; it defines very little or it defines everything you're against, I guess.
     
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    In America a better "label" would be "Radical" rather than "Liberal"
     
  20. Thomas Veil thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Don't worry about it; it's forgotten. And yeah, your question is an honest one. I'm just saying, in case McCain should win. The way people vote in this country, you just never know. Four years ago if you'd told me Bush was gonna win a second term, I'd advised you to get your head examined. Nobody with such a horrible record could win a second term.

    Right.

    Perhaps I'm confusing because I'm trying to be as fair-minded as possible to all sides. I've criticized Bush, McCain, Obama and Clinton at times, in proportion to how much they appear to deserve it. As with anyone else, I'm willing to give McCain his due when he deserves it, and kick him when he deserves it too.

    The Castro comment, added to his "hundred years in Iraq" statement, tells me that McCain is at best highly inept, at worst not playing with a full deck, when it comes to foreign policy. On the NYT issue, I'm withholding judgement on the affair/influence accusation until proof appears, although I acknowledge it's probably true. I am upset with him for the crack he took at the Times.

    McCain's a weird duck. I've had respect for him at times (McCain-Feingold), but the amount of respect I have for him wavers all over the place because he wavers all over the place. One day you think he's doing something to promote ethics and honesty, and the next day he looks like just another conservative shyster.

    FWIW, Obama isn't my "perfect" candidate, but right now he looks a damn sight better than anyone else running.
     
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    I don't know for sure, but I bet if he were asked, he'd proudly say he is a liberal.
     
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    I hear Thomas is a proud liberal... ;)
     
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    I think they like the term 'progressive'.
     
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    Well, that's just idle conjecture and isn't the basis for any useful discussion, to be honest.
     
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    Thanks for the reply.:)

    Personally I just don't trust McCain. Mainly because he's a Vietnam Veteran who was holed up for a long time ( which I respect ) . Myself being a Nam Vet makes me scared of what he might do in some weird scenario.
     

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