McCain shakes up campaign

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  1. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    how long until mccain drops out?
     
  2. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Poor McCain. He bet his entire campaign that Bush wouldn't do something as dumb as splurging in Iraq. Had Bush taken the advice of the Baker-Hamilton crowd, McCain would likely be the frontrunner on the GOP side with his "we just need more troops" speech.

    Instead, everyone has seen what McCain's strategy would bring, and he is now irrelevant.

    He'll be out by the end of the year.
     
  3. leekohler macrumors G5

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    McCain is gone because he lost his convictions and his mind. To think I once thought he was OK. :eek: He's like a racehorse with a broken leg- not good for much.
     
  4. zimv20 thread starter macrumors 601

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    THAT.... is hilarious.
     
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    The one thing the McCain campaign really needs that it can't get is a new candidate.
     
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    If he drops out of the race I finally won't have to read anymore letters to the editor in the Arizona Republic about how McCain is "the only man to fix our country".

    It can't come soon enough. It'd be even better if there was a halfway decent Republican nominee that would benefit from McCain leaving, but there isn't.

    I also hope AZ voters wake up and don't vote McCain back in for another Senate term. Unfortunately this is a conservative state, so he'll be voted back in without a doubt.
     
  7. zimv20 thread starter macrumors 601

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    perhaps they can outsource it.
     
  8. Swarmlord macrumors 6502a

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    I'd like to know what bonehead thought that he was once the leading GOP candidate. Maybe when he was the only declared candidate, but not since others entered the field.

    He should retire to Arizona and bake what's left of his brain in the hot sun there.
     
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    There is a decent republican nominee-Ron Paul 2008!
     
  10. leekohler macrumors G5

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    You've got to be kidding. Sure, that's all we need- another right-wing extremist nut job. The current one has been so good for the country. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    Sure mccain gave gwb a bit of a tough time in 2000, but come on, even in 2000 bush was a lightweight candidate running on his family name and nothing else (it's sad that that was enough to get him the nomination). If mccain couldn't even beat the deer-caught-in-the-headlights candidate, how could he be taken seriously for a later presidential run. I have no idea who annointed mccain a front-runner but someone needs to buy him/her a dictionary.
     
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    Is anyone else sick of that fact that to even run for president you've got to drop the GNP of several small countries?

    BTW, there will be no good candidates for either side because money does not equal a good candidate.
     
  14. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    sooooo...good candidates can't be wealthy?
     
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    Is George W. Bush a good president???? Is Dick Cheney a good vice president???????? They're both loaded.

    It's that all the most qualified people will never actually run, because it's now a game of money, not who's the best man for the job. Notice how there will most likely be no real third party candidates. Again. Even Ron Paul won't run as a third party candidate because he knows it's a money game between two political parties.
     
  16. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    Err...I think we've beat that one to death. My point is just because a candidate is wealthy or a good fundraiser does not necesarily make them a bad candidate. Is such logic unreasonable?
     
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    No that's not illogical.
    But it's illogical that in order to have to run for president, political parties spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. That is completely illogical especially when that money could help out the country, not the politicians' pockets -- especially when the country's trillions of dollars in debt.
     
  18. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    yes, i'll concur at the senselessness of that. Is that a word?
     
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    No, the point I believe he's trying to make is that you rob yourself of many potentially good candidates by restricting the elegibility pool to those who have incomes or estates valued in the stratosphere. Obama is the only top-tier candidate I can think of this cycle who does not come straight from the "silver spoon" class.
     
  20. dswoodley macrumors 6502a

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    I'll admit I haven't seen his donor list, but didn't a lot of his funds come from Hollywood elite? Just curious.
     
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    Probably, but that's not what I was talking about. I'm talking about his personal background.

    Although I have heard that Obama is also smashing the "small donor" records as well.
     
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    So true.
     
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    Wouldn't take long to fry him. It's not going to drop below 110 here all week.
     
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    What is wrong with Ron Paul, and why is he a "nut job"? If you look at his record, he voted against the Patriot Act, the War in Iraq, the immigration bill giving amnesty to illegal immigrants, etc. He wants to end the overwhelming hostility America shows toward other nations, and start getting the country back on track as a world trading partner and a nation that other countries can look up to again. I would say he is a common sense candidate, and a good alternative to all the "nut jobs" who want to use torture against so-called terrorists, expand Guantanamo, and wage war with Iran.
     
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    He's a nut job because he believe in corporate rule, otherwise known as lassez-faire capitalism.

    He is a complete right wing candidate in terms of his economic positions, which are absolutely frightening. You think corporations have too much influence and power in our lives now? If Ron Paul were elected, big business would have far greater influence and control of our lives.

    What this country really needs is to wake up, join the 21st century and get over their irrational fear of Socialism. Europe is light years ahead of us, and it's because this country is so stuck to the extreme right-wing.

    Kucinich is the only candidate worth voting for, in my opinion, since he is the only real liberal in the whole bunch. I'd be even happier with Socialists, especially a candidate who was proud of being a Socialist, and would stand up to smear the extreme right-wing in this country would throw at them.
     

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