McCain Votes Against Vets

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by archesdevil, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. archesdevil macrumors 6502

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    OBAMA had over 80,000 people cheering him on.... No one protesting.

    McCain can't even get 20,000 without protest.

    Watching his face was hilarious.

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  2. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    Really?

    DNC Protests:

    Colorado Indymedia

    Recreate 68

    Where'd you get the numbers for the RNC attendance?

    And what does your post have to do with voting against Vets?
     
  3. archesdevil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I always expect people to have a little common sense and, sensibility. I guess I was wrong here. I know that there was protesting at the DNC. There always is in political events. However, in a stadium of 80,000, there were no visible disturbances.
     
  4. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I don't know, I wasn't there. I wouldn't count on the media to give a fair account of it.

    How about providing some links or checking some facts before you make claims ... you did say "No one protesting."
     
  5. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    That's easy to accomplish when they just don't let them into the stadium.
     
  6. archesdevil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You think the Republicans let him in the arena?
     
  7. archesdevil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    As soon as youtube has footage I will add it.
     
  8. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I didn't even watch it, so I have no idea who you are talking about. Really, what does this have to do with voting against Vets?
     
  9. archesdevil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I don't know why you would reply if you have no idea what I am talking about.
    A protester raised a sign during the McCain speech that stated, "McCain votes against Vets." There was also at least one other protester as-well.
     
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    I don't see the need for that comment at all. Since your statement didn't make any sense, r.j.s. asked for (necessary) clarification.

    Until your post just now, I still didn't know how your original post related to vets. Either I don't have common sense either, or you didn't make sense. I'd bet on the latter.
     
  11. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I replied because I am a Vet, and seeing the thread title made me curious. Once I read your post, which was completely unsubstantiated and partially wrong, I felt the need to correct the record.

    BTW, is there any evidence to back up that protester's claim? Anyone could have written anything on a sign and held it up, doesn't mean anything unless it can be backed up.
     
  12. archesdevil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    As I said, I will post footage as soon as it is available. Also, I am curious why you did not watch the RNC speech. You can tell by my sig that I am clearly for OBAMA but, I watched to see if McCain had any substantive ideas. I can see you are for Barr. You still could have watched.
     
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    I had better things to do around the house, I saw maybe 3 minutes of it.
     
  14. lostfan916 macrumors 6502a

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    During McCain's speech there were protesters in the arena. I was watching ABC and there was a quick flash to a guy at the top with a banner saying that McCain voted against Vets. Camera went back to McCain and would eventually go back to the guy who you could tell was protesting (wasn't very apparent at first) and then he was yelling something and had the peace sign up, but the RNC people started chanting "USA" (probably to drown him out.) Then a few minutes after that there was a lady down on the floor who was also protesting, but don't really know what she was doing, just saw her moving around and stuff then she was escorted out, and more chants of "USA!" McCain once again continued and we could hear more "USA" chants interrupting his speech, which leads me to assume every time there was a USA chant someone was protesting.

    Then McCain said something about ignoring the screech or something... don't remember he wasn't too memorable tonight.
     
  15. archesdevil thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I understand. My post was directed toward people who knew what had happened. I apologize for not being clear about that.
     
  16. Ntombi macrumors 68040

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    Here you go

    directly from veterans groups:

    And here are Obama's ratings:
     
  17. seenew macrumors 68000

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    He said "friends, friends, ignore the static and the ground noise. aheh heh heh."

    I'm sure he'd love you to ignore them. Stupid people, protesting against issues they don't like, what do they think they're doing? :rolleyes:

    I hate it when McCain tries to call me his friend.
     
  18. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    Let me make sure I'm getting this, the more they do what the special interest group wants, the higher the rating?
     
  19. Ntombi macrumors 68040

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    Yes. Go to www.votesmart.org. It's completely non-partisan, and it aggragates data on every single candidate's voting record and stated policy.

    McCain claims to be for veterans and veteran issues, but every single veterans group had given him consistently low marks. This is not just on the war, BTW, or recently, but on benefits, pay, rehab, mental health issues, you name it.

    I know he's not your candidate, but I wanted to set the record straight on him. He loves to pay lip service to vets, but not much else. I have vets in my family, some who came back healthy, and some who didn't. This is personal to me as well.
     
  20. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    Thanks. I just wanted to make sure I understood what the numbers mean.
     
  21. leekohler macrumors G5

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    If course! Because the media's all "librools"! Everyone knows that! :rolleyes:
     
  22. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I never said that ... you can find media bias to both sides. Just check Media Matters and Media Research Center. IMO, all the mainstream media is good for anymore is opinionated commentary and sensationalized stories that boost ratings.
     
  23. leekohler macrumors G5

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    I know. I was baiting you. ;) We do try to have fun once in a while in here. :)
     
  24. BoyBach macrumors 68040

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    There is also this shining example of McCain and Bush - oops, I forgot that we are not allowed to mention them in the same sentence now that Dubya has been rebranded as "Liberal Washington" by the Republican Party - supporting the troops:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/opinion/26mon1.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


    http://www.minnpost.com/michaelmetz...fghanistan_vets_criticize_mccain_over_gi_bill
     
  25. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I figured, but decided to go into it all out, instead of the last time I said the media was biased.
     

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