Megachurch Pastor Comes Out

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  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Good for him. This is a very brave and risky move. Most likely he will be ousted, but at least he's being honest and trying to help instead of hurt.

    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/10/29/Megachurch_Pastor_Jim_Swilley_Comes_Out/
     
  2. Queso macrumors G4

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    This one seems to understand the WWJD thing. So nice to see an actual Christian pastor in the news rather than some lunatic twisting the religion to suit their own agenda.
     
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    I liked this statement. Shows great character.
     
  4. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Yes, it does. It's about time we had one of these guys actually act like Christian for a change. Let's hope others follow his example.
     
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    Kudos, this is a Man. :cool:

    But Debye?? Really? De-Bye. <snicker>
     
  6. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

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    Good guy sounds like he's had a seriously rough life.
     
  7. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    side note it sounds like the man and is exwife were able to remain friends after the divorce. That is a rarity and a good thing when it happens.
     
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    Good

    Nice to see some good news for once.

    Everything about the story is good. :)
     
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    (My changes in bold)

    It usually isn't very newsworthy when a Christian "acts like a Christian," whatever that means - it's more fun to report when a Christian acts like a douchebag, just like it's more fun to report on a murder than a rescued kitten.

    Just the same, my hat is off to this guy. I can only imagine the weight taken off his shoulders with this revelation. I'm curious to see how big the fallout is in the church, however.
     
  10. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Everything except that his career is probably over. But that's the part that makes this a brave move.
     
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    It means (in part at least)- putting others' needs before your own, and being honest. This guy did exactly that.
     
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    I'm very proud of this guy for coming out and being honest. Hopefully the church realizes how hard it was for him to do what he did and at least some of them stick around to support him.
     
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    +1. This guy sounds like a good guy.
     
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    Why did he not just turn straight I mean it is just a lack of prayer or some other sin that causes gayness if you listen to Preachers.
    I wonder if his congregation will support him or leave in droves?
    Religious people seem obsessed on who has sex with who.
     
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    They will mostly leave, I'm guessing.

    Hey- I try to give credit where it's due. No problem.
     
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    I hope for a day when this isn't newsworthy, but accepted without a blink of the eye.
     
  18. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    well if they don't abandon him it will show that they are good Christians. As long has he had not been preaching against homosexuality the whole tome. some people in the closet are some of the worst haters out there.
     
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    :D Yes.

    He should move to Toronto.

    His career need not be over.
     
  21. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    He could find work here as well.
     
  22. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I take it you are among the group who think that Christians are all horrible to gays.
    Remember there is a lot more to Christians that the Catholic church. The prodisent churchs are not a conservative as the Catholic Church.
    I personally like the ELCA Lutheran church which is the most liberal of the Lutheran demonstration
     
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    Not defending the Catholic Church (we all know they aren't worthy of defence), but I'd hardly consider more or less conservative than mainstream evangelicalism.
     
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    How's does one "act like Christian." Do you have any statistical evidence that Christians are more/less likely to perform/not perform the actions you reference?
     
  25. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Yeah, I kind of do. It's called experience.

    It's also evident with religious support for things like proposition 8 and other laws. Perhaps you'd also like to talk to Dr James Dobson of Focus on the Family about "curing" gay people. Perhaps you could also point out other clergy who've come out all on their own, and been supported by their congregation. They are very few. Religious opposition and hatred of gay people is well documented. The behavior ny many religious people regarding it would have to be called less than "Christian".

    See Ted Haggard for one example. Start there and keep going.
     

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