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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Solomani, May 5, 2016.
Oh those clever Mexicans!
But they weren't quite as clever as they'd thought
Trump sends his wishes back.
I hear that he will be presenting fortune cookies for Chinese New Year.
RE: Donald Trump wishes Mexico Happy Cinco De Mayo.
One: You'd think for all the money Donald Trump has, he could afford to have someone come in at night and clean his office for him.
Two: Its bad enough that a man who claims to be worth TEN BILLION DOLLARS eats his lunch off a stack of old newspapers on his desk. Its worse that one of those newspapers features a picture of his ex-wife (Marla Maples) in a bikini. It manages to bring creepiness to an entirely new level.
Why do I suddenly crave Taco Bell?
At least he can say he kept a promise, he built a wall around something Mexican related.
It's his way of appealing to the working man, look at me I'm doing it tough or maybe he's spent all of his hard earned money to fund his election campaign
That's just too funny !!!
Donald can simply build a fence around a single Taco Bell restaurant and he can claim Mission Accomplished!
We've solved our indigestion problem!
There will be a wall. An electronic wall. You better have a passport if you're visiting the US and you better damn well not overstay your visa. Want a jobless government benefits? Guess what? E-Verify. Illegals will self deport if they can't get a job or milk the system. Problem solved.
Seems like a massive government IT project...
how exactly will this happen and how much more would it cost then having people actually working and making money for the us and picking our produce?
We don't necessarily need a wall, just a bunch of "Don't You Dare ****ing Cross You ****ing Criminals!" signs along with some pictures of drones dropping bombs, so that they get the message.
We could also not have a military presence in 120 countries and line our borders with tanks...actual national security!
A parasite needs a host. If Trump wins it all, Mexico will bow and kiss the ring. They have to.
You're deeply disturbed.
How are you going to enforce visa overstays? I mean besides using "damn" a lot.
Unauthorized immigrants are largely not able to get "jobless government benefits." There are some exceptions, but immigrants without authorization are not able to get SSI, unemployment insurance. Some states allow illegal immigrants to get WIC, food stamps, and free school lunches, but these programs exist largely to protect children-who remain the largest body of illegal immigrants.
One quirk of your argument is that large numbers of immigrants work in the cash and gig economy and file for taxes using the EIN system. This means they never get benefits, but do pay into Social Security to the tune of $600 billion.
So, your apparent solution is to commit war crimes on the U.S.-Mexico border? Maybe you can talk to the ranchers whose cattle graze on the borderlands about that. Or the millions of people who live in cities along the border. Or, maybe you can describe the necessity of such force to the hikers enjoying birds in several national parks, and explain to the indian tribes the need to sick Hellfire missiles on targets near their ancestral land.
As for you argument about tanks. From 1979 to 1992, the U.S. produced around 9,000 M1 tanks at a cost of roughly $5 million per tank. (Numbers here are fuzzy, because that's based on the current M1A2 model with SEP, which is way overkill for hanging out in the Sonoran desert.)
If you took the entire tank force, you would have a force capable of patrolling the entire border at a density of roughly 4 tanks for every mile. Sounds awesome. (Here we're assuming that we remand the entire tank force to the border, including around 2,300 that need to be refurbished after their use in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as those sold to Saudi Arabia, etc. We'd have to adjust these numbers accordingly. And, this assumes that we basically leave the tank in the desert. Breaking this force into shifts dramatically changes the deployment.) And, we could make similar assumptions using the Stryker (probably a better choice actually) or the M2 Bradley.
Let's do it.
We've only spent $45 billion and given up our entire armored force. Of course, that's not including the cost of the crews, maintenance, or the cost of digging one out of the Rio Grande Valley's mud.
Plus, are we going to have M1A2s crashing around Nogales, Arizona or San Diego? Ask the Germans about having main battle tanks charging through rural towns.
But, among the stupid ideas I've heard about securing the border, this one is not the worst.[/QUOTE]
Damn @hulugu, looks like you overstayed your posting visa. Great post.