MI Republicans to voters: you s**k

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  1. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    15 Republicans sue to prevent voter-approved law that creates a balanced redistricting commission that is to take over, in 2021, from the legislature and, at least in theory, eliminate or greatly brake the practice of gerrymandering.

    Michigan is among five states where Republicans retained control of the state House even though Democratic candidates won more votes statewide last fall.

    Those excluded from serving on the panel include people who currently are or have in the previous six years been elected partisan officials or candidates, their paid consultants or employees, legislative workers, lobbyists and their employees, or political appointees not subject to civil service classification. Also barred are those individuals' parents, children and spouses.

    (The Republicans) say there is no "compelling explanation" as to how limiting participation would result in a more impartial panel.

    Voters said that they wanted this, but apparently the Republicans know better.
     
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    Sort of like Colorado Democrats. Last year, an amendment to join the national popular vote was soundly defeated by voters here. This year the Democratic legislature passed a bill which was signed by the Democratic governor to join the national popular vote.
     
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    Why can’t republicans win the popular vote fair and square?
     
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    Maybe it has something to do with more registered voters than actual population in some areas?
     
  6. LordVic macrumors 603

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    its not. it's deflection
     
  7. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    No, it doesn’t.
     
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    Source.
     
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    People move. Nobody, ever, unregisters where they used to live. Anyone moving out-of-state will not be captured in the state/county registration database when they re-register in their new home state, because states do not normally pass that information back and forth. Hence, three and a half million sounds not unreasonable in a somewhat mobile society like the US.
     
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    Because they want us to be a de facto one party country.
     
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    Or...
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/us-more-registered-voters-than-adults/
    When all of California (rather than eleven select counties) is taken into account, the figures offered in a 2 January 2018 report issued by the Secretary of State’s office list more than 25 million adults eligible to vote residing in California, but fewer than 19 million registered voters. The state would have to encompass more than 6 million “ghost voters” on its rolls for the number of registered voters to exceed the number of eligible adults.

    Moreover, in the 2016 presidential election, Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton won the state of California by more than 3.4 million votes over her closest competitor, Republican Donald Trump. Virtually every single one of the claimed 3.5 million “ghost voters” in the entire U.S. would have had to come to California and cast fraudulent votes in order to be responsible for that outcome.

    The trope that upwards of 3 million people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election is so persistent that it resulted in a now-defunct voter fraud commission, which was quietly disbanded in January 2018 without presenting any evidence of widespread voter fraud.
     
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    Oh what, his claim is BS? Say it ain't so! :rolleyes:
     
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    Clearly republicans favor fiction over facts. Much easier to "believe" something instead of doing own research. You will notice conspiracy theorists generally tend to be republicans and their fan-base is predominantly republicans also.

    i don't understand this. popular vote would eliminate so called red/blue state or big/small state. all vote would weigh the same. so why do republicans oppose it?
     
  16. mikef07 macrumors 6502

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    Really? If I were a candidate I would focus on selling policy that benefits LA, Dallas, Houston, NYC, SF, and Boston. That is why popular vote is a bad idea.
     
  17. LordVic macrumors 603

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    Because you just explained it :p

    it would eliminate red/blue state and all votes would weight the same...

    Republicans can't have that as they'd never win the popular vote again (with their current directions)

    It's the same reason our conservatives in Canada won't support electoral reform. They'd never win another election under any other vote distribution. They like the current system which allows them to have a max of 35% of the vote and still win.
     
  18. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    Well, those cities represent only about 5 percent of the US population, so nowhere near enough voters to win any election. But, what’s wrong with policies that benefit people who live in big cities?
     

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