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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by MACDRIVE, Jul 22, 2007.
The Fresno Bee
Your thoughts on the matter?
They're crazy. But as long these are the only implants they oppose, then I couldn't care less
Unless the chip is making you do evil things, I don't know how this could be interpreted as the mark of the best. What's wrong with having a chip in your arm that could unlock your stuff or pay for things with without having to haul keys or a wallet around? It basically would be just a key and credit card...
Revelation 13:16, 17
I don't see this being the only way of buying stuff for a very, very long time, if ever.
I think the mark of the beast will have more to do with the population being divided into classes...
Lots of nursing homes already have ankle bracelets on the "wanderers". Whenever they get near a door, the door automatically locks. It's especially important for Alzheimer's patients.
In other words, I can see limited uses for such a technology, but "limited uses" tends to turn into mandatory pretty quickly.
As far as religion or Nostradamus is concerned, who cares!
My grandpa had to wear one of those, but he was always finding a way out (he even managed to sneak out of the Alzheimer's ward).
But personally, Mark of the Beast or not, I think that I will stick with my credit card and old-fashioned greenbacks for the time being...
I agree; or more generally, I 'm not so sure that it will be this blatantly obvious when it happens.
I'm a bit more concerned about the privacy aspect of this.
For once, "Christians" and I are afraid of the same thing. Those microchips are evil.
Are you afraid of bees? Because I am, and if you are too, that could make it two things.
I'm now wondering what the OP thinks about it, since he (she?) asked the question...
Actually, I kind of like bees. They make honey. Honey is good.
But what if all the bees are disappearing like the are!!! NOO!!! I LOVE HONEY and pollinated fruits!!!
But back to subject, there are many factions of Christianity that have different views on the Mark of the Beast as well as other subjects which cause the divisions, and I'm glad to say that the opinions found in the OP are not the general consensus.
Give me a break, must Christians oppose every aspect of science?
Let's have a look at the shortened tally of things Christianity has opposed
However, microships implanted in people is a very scary idea. I find it hard to believe that somebody would think it's a good idea.
ROFL. "These Last Days Ministries"
I don't like these chips either. Unnatural. However, how desperate these groups are for signs
If we lived in some kind of idealized world where there was no such thing as identity theft, or governments spying on their citizens, etc. then I might be able to get on board with something like this. For example, it would be kinda cool if I didn't have to carry around a wallet with cash, credit cards, identification, etc. because all of that information was encoded in my "implant".
But we don't live in that idealized world, so yeah, I'm opposed to it because of the opportunities for abuse.
And they pollinate!!!
I remember about 15 years ago when similar arguments came out that people were going to be tattooed with barcodes. That was the mark of the beast too! Good thing the beast keeps up with technology!
Please don't take this as representative of all Christians. The Pope has an iPod for heaven's sake.
From what I understand, the time when the mark of the beast will be required to purchase or sell anything comes after the Rapture, so any current Christians do not need to worry about this problem because we will have already been: "...caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." (1 Thes 4:17)
The only Christians the mark of the beast will affect are those that become Christians after seeing the evidence of the Rapture and the events that lead to Armageddon. They will be left on earth until the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and will suffer the rule of the Antichrist.
Who would satan force me to have implants - does he think fake boobies are funny?
The druggies and theives should oppose this more than anyone else... I really want to be tracked by gps satellites and restricted to legitimate transactions only. We don't have to worry about this happening in America for a long time because most our politicians fall in one of the above categories or are frequenting an escort service on the d/L.
Please don't compare the science behind the iPod to that behind evolution and gravity, 2 completely different things
You're missing the point of and conection to the original post.
Actually, they're against the other kind too because they have serial numbers on them.
No, I'm not kidding.
Rev. 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. (King James Version)
I've lived in a Christian "community" my entire life, and I've never heard of that. Most are against them because they aren't natural, but they certainly aren't against them, say if it was reconstructive after a mastectomy. I've never heard serial numbers being a reason though.
I just can't see this being the only way of buying or selling. Maybe one way, but the only? How many ways do we have now? Wouldn't it have to be the entire world? I just don't see it happening this way...
As long as the chip isn't called the
Security Automation Transaction Assist Node v6.6.6 everyone should be fine...