Mike Pence breaks tie to allow states to defund Planned Parenthood

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  1. Moyank24 macrumors 601

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    Shameful.

    Absolutely shameful.

    They only need to look towards Texas, where the results of defunding PP have been pretty awful.
     
  2. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    This is exactly as it should be. The Federal Government should not be funding PP or anything similar or opposite. That is not its purpose. Let the states do it if they choose.
     
  3. Stella macrumors G3

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    does the federal government fund viagara for those with limp dicks?

    ( which probably include all those on the current administration)

     
  4. thekev macrumors 604

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    They are not funded directly. Most government funding on this one comes in the way of reimbursement contracts on a fee for services model. They handle a lot of medicaid cases, which are not exactly lucrative services.
     
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    So shameful. Where will women go now for guilt free, government subsidized infanticide?
     
  6. samcraig thread starter macrumors P6

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    Oh stop. Not only is your post offensive - it's not even accurate. You're more clever than that.
     
  7. Moyank24 macrumors 601

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    This is just pure ignorance.
     
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    I abhor abortion. During and anotomy course we had to watch an ultrasound of an abortion. Watching that fetus trying to get away from the forcepts that was tearing it apart was shocking.
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    It's not.
     
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    Let's be clear: In republican-speak "defunding" means "reimbursements" in the real world. The government does not fund PP. The government reimburses PP for services just like they do with every other healthcare provider.

    If your position is that the government shouldn't be reimbursing any healthcare providers for any reason, then that is a consistent and respectable position. I disagree with it, it is a valid policy viewpoint. But at least be consistent about it. No PP should also mean no medicare, no medicaid, no VA health, no government funding for anything health period.

    However, do you think the Federal Government should be picking winners and losers in the healthcare industry? That is exactly what republicans are saying whenever they talk about taking away healthcare reimbursements to PP. 99% of what PP does not abortions - they are a healthcare provider just like Partners or Mayo Clinic. And they are not the only abortion provider anyway. So when they focus on PP, they are singling out one healthcare provider that is otherwise compliant with every same rule and regulation that every other healthcare provider is compliant with.
     
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    why should the government not fund women's heath?
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    where did they go before? not planned parenthood.
    I swear why do republicans work so hard to increase abortions?
     
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    I don't care. At least now I won't be paying for baby murder.
     
  12. oneMadRssn macrumors 601

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    So don't get an abortion. Nobody is forcing you, nobody is forcing anyone to get an abortion.

    I abhor people that talk about abortions being terrible while at the same time opposing subsidized day-care, government paid pre-K, and free healthcare for children. That is the very example of hypocrite.

    You can't tell people they can't get abortions and then refuse to help them with their babies that have been born. Pick one. To me, the latter is worse. Allowing a born child to suffer is worse than abortion.

    I would agree with banning abortions only when we have laws requiring material and paternal paid leave of at least 6 months each, income-based subsidized day-care, pre-K for all, and single-payer healthcare for all.
     
  13. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    you are not now. so your argument is pointless. but you will pay for all those little rugrats and pay even more.
     
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    How about people take care of the babies they make THEMSELVES!!!!!!
     
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    Guess they will have to find another way to fund their Eugenics.
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    Personal responsibility isn't welcome here.
     
  16. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    yes even when they agree raped by their dad. get over yourself **** happens
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    well it sure is not welcome by conservatives. personal responsibility is great till it applies to the person condemming someone else.
     
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    And if they can't? If they physically are unable to? Are you willing to let that baby suffer and eventually die?
     
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    I guess you also abhor birth control, cancer screening, STD screening and about 100 other things that help keep women healthy.
     
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    People are saying that they don't wont government to fund abortions.
     
  20. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    no planned parenthood does only abortions where have you been??? :rolleyes:
     
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    If the woman is raped they should be forced to have the baby?


     
  22. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a

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    Physically able to get on with the horizontal mambo, but can't take on the responsibility of that action? Note I am not talking about rape cases.
     
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    Although I support the right to abort a fetus that is not developed/viable, I do not support the mixing of a non-abortion org/facilities funded by tax cash with one that is providing abortions.

    If abortions are so lucrative they should be able to open an abortobaby across the street and cash in without having to shuffle cash and share facilities/staff.
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    Depends who the rapper is.
     

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