Mile High Club initiation results in fighter jet escort and other flying paranoia

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  1. yg17 macrumors G5

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    I don't need nonstop coverage of the 9/11 anniversary on TV to remind me of 9/11, I just need to read about stuff like this to remember how paranoid we've become which in turns remind me why we've become this paranoid.

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/29151212/detail.html
    What kind of sad world do we live in where you can't join the mile high club without creating a terrorism scare?


    In other news, Southwest flight diverted because a passenger had to use the bathroom twice on a 4 hour flight. The horror!
    http://avherald.com/h?article=442bd720&opt=0
    What was the suspicious item, did he forget to flush? Or was he just guilty of "pooping while Muslim"?

    Perhaps another person guilty of "Taking the browns to the super bowl while brown"?
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/fighters_escort_plane_into_bathroom_UM0SFJuvbtB8m0cSexFnvL
    I flew with my dad while he was in treatment for prostate cancer, and at the rate he was using the john during the flight, the F16s probably would've assumed the worst and shot us down. Fortunately everyone on that plane was sane.
     
  2. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    Of course, there was a heightened security risk on Sunday - because of some unconfirmed reports of an anniversary attack. I think the crew did exactly what they were supposed to do.

    And did I miss the part where a description was given of the passengers taken into custody?
     
  3. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    9/11 impacted the lives of many people in many ways including ripping away certain freedoms that we used to enjoy and creating a paranoia in people on planes. Did the crew act accordingly? Given the day and as the above poster said, the unconfirmed rumors of an anniversary attack, better safe than sorry.
     
  4. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    Things happen on planes the other 364 days of the year just like this. But on the 10 year anniversary of 9/11 its better safe than sorry.
     
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    Good to see we obviously haven't let "them" win. Good job America. We really showed them how strong we are.

    Now I'm going to get back to my coffee and paperwork and-JESUS CHRIST IS THAT A BOMB!?!!?

    ...no wait. I think that's just a garbage can. At ease.
     
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    If Osama wasn't feeding the fishes, he'd be laughing his ass off.
     
  7. yg17 thread starter macrumors G5

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    So why even bother allowing planes to fly? If we're going to be so paranoid about an anniversary attack that we have to have F-16s escort a plane because a passenger went to the bathroom one too many times, what's the point of letting any commercial jet in the air?
     
  8. OutThere macrumors 603

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    How much does it cost to scramble these fighter jets? And what will they do, if there's a problem? Shoot the plane down?

    One of the many lasting effects of 9/11 is the change in the outlook of the passengers of a hijacked plane. Before, based on historical precedent, people expected to be taken as hostages, likely eventually released. Now, people expect a 9/11 style attack where the plane hits something and everyone dies. This essentially eliminates the possibility of a repeat of a 9/11 attack, as the passengers will surely react differently to someone trying to take control of the plane.
     
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    But is he really dead ?

    ooops..Wrong discussion.


    or is it ?

    Da Da daaaaa

    :D
     
  10. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    Planes do fly, upwards of 3500 flights a day! I think you need to gain some perspective here. Two suspicious incidents on a high security day doesn't make us paranoid. But you go on thinking whatever you want, I've read your posts for long enough to know I can't change your mind. :D
     
  11. yg17 thread starter macrumors G5

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    You said it yourself - things happen every day of the year like this. There's always someone using the bathroom several times, and there's probably a few attempts a day at joining the mile high club and we never scramble fighters for an escort. I know yesterday was a high security day, but at what point does it just become paranoia? I think these events crossed into paranoia territory.

    If someone refused to turn off their cell phone or other electronic device when asked by the flight attendant and became belligerent, that might warrant an escort. Someone going to the bathroom a few times? Sorry, but an escort is excessive, even on the anniversary of 9/11.
     
  12. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    or maybe you're just being paranoid about people being paranoid? :p
     
  13. (marc) macrumors 6502a

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    A real terrorist would say "yes, ma'am", turn off the device (or pretend to) and not be suspicious. The US should use its good relations to Israel, they really know how make out terrorists.
     
  14. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    Yeah because terrorists always try to blend in, especially when they're trying to light their shoe or underwear on fire!
     
  15. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    Again - there was a heightened security alert because of a potential threat. These types of incidents are not systemic. I'd be much more inclined to agree with you that this was an overreation if they were.
     
  16. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    Maybe it was the Media looking for a story that made it more visible then usual?

    perhaps airlines should have a "emotional relief room"? ;)
     
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    They should probably just get rid of lavatories on planes and shove a few more seats in their place, making everyone use the restroom before getting on the plane (maybe do security checks at the same time) and after and take away all drink and food services. That should help those airlines turn a profit. :)
     
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    My rock-jock in the morning said it was 3 men, and that they ignored the flight crew's request to vacate the premises.

    He also opined that at least one of them must have been a contortionist. :D
     
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    As a 66 year old male with a prostate the size of a softball, I'm really glad I wasn't flying on 9/11. :eek:

    But seriously, I'm not sure what someone with a medical situation similar to mine should have done. Perhaps informing one of the flight crew would have been a good idea. A little embarrassing, but better than what happened.

    I wouldn't want to be the one having to make the call on whether to scramble the planes or not on 9/11.
     
  20. Grey Beard macrumors 65816

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    Perhaps he'd never heard of a 'daisy chain' then.
    KGB:D
     
  21. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    And airplane washroom is hardly the size of your living room. :)
     
  22. yg17 thread starter macrumors G5

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    The Denver to Detroit story turned out to not be mile-high club related - early media reports were inaccurate. It was just a case of 3 passengers guilty of flying while brown.

    Here is the account of one of the passengers who was arrested, interrogated and strip searched for no reason other than her skin color.
     
  23. soco macrumors 68030

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    Did you really just link to a Wordpress? I don't mean to be ignorant, but I didn't even read it.
     
  24. yg17 thread starter macrumors G5

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    It's the personal blog of one of the 3 passengers who was arrested. I'll admit, I can't verify it's authenticity, but if it's real, it's just horrible.
     
  25. soco macrumors 68030

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    If it's real, yes. Even if it is verified, I'd question his credibility anyway. Not as much, of course. I just mean that if I were a gay man being lambasted across the internet, I might want to make it about something else too.
     

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