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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by zimv20, Dec 26, 2006.
Hiring mercenaries is nothing new, foreign ones would obviously be cheaper than those employed by Swamp--errr, Blackwater.
The problem though is that this is all about avoiding a draft. The increased recruitment costs and bonuses necessary to keep recruitment high in the US means either more and cheaper mercenaries or a draft. There's simply no other way.
I wonder what countries they propose to hire from? How would this affect the citizenship of those hired? Wouldn't they be considered enemy combatants? Who would be responsible for their long term health care if they're injured? What about the language issues?
I can see it now -
"Illegal immigrants - you're not good enough for medical care, or schooling, or labour law protection - but now you have the opportunity to die for your adopted country"
Haven't we always done this? I've known several people that fought in WWII for the U.S. and weren't citizens.
i think they already do that. Its a quick path into citizenship.
In most wars it's been pretty common. However, if I remember correctly most of those in WWII were volunteers. What's being proposed now is radically different; the actual recruitment in foreign countries of non US citizens.
It might be accepted by alot of foreigners if they give them automatic citizenship.
A buddy of mine in college joined the IDF and served for a while. He was Jewish of course.
I've always found it fascinating that the only exemption the US grants in this situation is for Jews to serve in Israel. There was a time it might have been justified, but as with most laws passed meant to address a single event, this one's no longer needed or desirable
What we should do is put up signs at the mexican border, Come join the U.S. just sign here.
You, sir, should be in advertising.
for some reason I have no problem with that. Actually, I have no problem with illegal immigrants at all, they do tons of jobs that most americans are too snooty to do.
I wonder if the Hessians are still available.
Nah... They got the sack.
That's so hilarious that we used to outsource industrial production and now we have to outsource fighting now?
Geewhiz, can't we do anything for ourselves anymore?
There was a comedian who was joking about us doing it, but it's actually been done before, as mentioned. I'm kinda torn on this. I support moderate legal immigration policies, and we do need more troops. But this feels like cohersion. But it's not like they're forced into it, it's voluntary and the reward is something they want. Which could lead to better lives for them and their families. If they survive. If they don't, it's kinda like hired suiciders.
You know, substituting the evil for incompetence.
Oh, very good.
My son in law just joined the Army and he said that he is going to school with a Canadian. And someone from South Korea.
I guess they started already.
Are they in the process of becoming US citizens? It would be interesting to hear the facts surrounding their situations.
didn't we see this film already?
Service guarantees citizenship!
I guess there would be people who are desparate enough to take that offer from US govt. I know I will take a hike in a minute and get outta the country (and I have a country to go to, thank god).
Ironic that some are willing to die to be in America, even for a cause they don't believe in, while Americans are willing to leave if forced to fight.
I don't know that and neither does he. i wished i knew too.
I don't know when the program began. Before I went through Basic with a few would-be citizens in 1954, for sure. Many Filipinos gained their citizenship in this fashon. Four years of honorable service.
Desperate? It's a helluva lot better deal than for most in Mexico, seems like. The plus for the nation is that they come out with additional education and the ability to speak English. When you figure that only one out of ten in the service are combat types, there are a lot of skills that accrue...
NO! this country is crowded enough already...