Millions of Bush Admin Emails Recoverd.

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  1. macfan881 macrumors 68020

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  2. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    Can't wait till the Climategate peeps get in here and completely reverse positions.
     
  3. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    If there is a scandal of any sort Bush should be held accountable. For instance, if an email conversation showed that Bush was purposely misleading people to get us into Iraq I have no problem with him being charged with war crimes. f
     
  4. XNine macrumors 68040

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    What, like you mean his way of insinuating that Iraq and Al Quaeda conspired together in the 9/11 attacks? Or the fact that Iraq had WMD's and were very capable of attacking the United States with them? How about the Patriot Act? Or the NSA surveillance programs on citizens?
     
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    Actually I've never heard this from anyone other than those who were pissed at the Bush Administration. Never once have I thought Saddam and al Qaeda were in league together.

    Yeah there were no WMDs, but the fear wasn't that Iraq would attack the US, but to have them fall into terrorist hands or attack Israel. Saddam generated the illusion of WMDs to intimidate Iran. He miscalculated the US response, which he thought would be sanctions and/or drone attacks.


    Anyway, I find it hard to believe that these emails will present anything damning to the Bush Administration due to that fact that the firings of the lawyers was legal and were not a unique occurrence.
     
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    That's interesting because according to a 2003 poll, 70 percent of Americans...

    Additionally, from the Christian Science Monitor, March 14, 2003:

    Here I agree with you. Saddam's weapons program was a Potemkin Village. Some have argued that even Saddam actually believed his own propaganda. Nonetheless, the intelligence that indicated Iraq had a viable WMD program was wrong and the UN team was correct.
    There's a lesson there.
     
  7. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    I expect them to vigorously hold the position that Bush's administration was a fake.
     
  8. Queso macrumors G4

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    Blair has all but admitted it, yet remains free to rape gullible idiots for public speaking fees.

    I don't expect Bush will fair any worse. After all, they only indirectly killed poor people, and poor people don't count do they? :rolleyes:
     
  9. Gelfin macrumors 68020

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    Good for you, but it puts you in the minority. Most Americans were misled into believing exactly that, perhaps because of quotes like this:

    How about in the infamous "Mission Accomplished" speech when Bush said,

    Are we not to infer from this that Iraq shared in responsibility for the September 11 attack? Why else mention it as a victory over the perpetrators of that attack?
     
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    What you could infer, from that quote by former President Bush, is that addressing Al Qaeda terrorists within Iraq was one component "...in a war on terror that began on September the 11th, 2001, and still goes on," just as the president said.

    Number Two Al Qaeda terrorist Abu Azzam is taken down in Iraq
    September 27, 2005
    http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2005/09/aide_to_alqaedas_zarqawi_kille.html

    Al-Zarqawi Killed In Iraq Air Raid
    Jun 08, 2006
    http://www.life.com/image/71154825

    Senior al Qaeda chief Abu Qaswarah killed in Iraq
    October 15, 2008
    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/15/iraq.alqaeda.leader/index.html
     
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    You mean since that significant Al Qaeda leaders where in Iraq years after 9/11 and years after we invaded and tempted not just them but many others to come into Iraq and fight us, that Iraq was involved with 9/11?! GENIUS!
     
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    Refresher on Al Qaeda in Iraq Pre War
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1973193/posts

    The compilation of Al Qaeda/terrorist presence in Iraq pre-war was assembled by Free Republic and is dated, starting in 1991 through 1999, but certainly goes back much further.
     
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    You really expect us to take anything posted on a right wing extremist website like Free Republic seriously?
     
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    That's all InTheNet reads it seems like sometimes.
     
  15. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    Actually no. That statement to me doesn't implicate Iraq in regards to the 911 attacks. As you know, our government's belief window in regards to terrorism shifted after the September 11th. The notion of a global war on terror was born and anyone out-to-do-terror was now an enemy. That means anyone "doing" terrorism, i.e. hijacking planes, providing weapons to, training, threatening, harboring was now a terrorist. Saddam Hussein and his cronies and Iraq became the central front in the war.

    Anyway, this topic has been discussed ad nauseum. Nothing we can say or do will change it.
     
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    Nonsense: Saddam Hussein did none of the things in your list. Who were his "cronies", anyway? And what the hell is a "belief window"? Is it a new-fangled propaganda term?
     
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    Skunk, there a volumes of information on this subject. Besides committing genocide, launching SCUDs into Israel, or bankrolling terrorist organizations, Saddam was probably an okay guy. Kind of like a crazy uncle. His "cronies" would refer to his government, the republican guard, and his two psychopathic sons.

    "Belief window" is the term I chose to describe how the world shifted for the US Government after 911.

    try volume 1 to start
     
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    Unfortunately, this is going to make little differences to the lives of Americans, now if we could get the Patriot Act repealed, then we will be doing alright.
     
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    Surely that should be "the elite republican guard".
     
  20. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    That would be Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove and all the other Republicans? :cool:
     
  21. skunk macrumors G4

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    Volumes of misinformation.
    That's a lot of cronies.

    You could do better to choose a term which means something intelligible.
     
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    You just need to reform your semantic portcullis.
     

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