Miss Beverly Hills Defends Antigay Remarks

leekohler

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Meet the new Carrie Prejean.

Self-appointed Miss Beverly Hills, Lauren Ashley, spoke Thursday about the antigay comments she made to Fox News based on a passage from Leviticus that urges death for gays. The beauty queen, who has been disowned by her namesake city, said people should not take the Bible literally, but she still opposes marriage equality.

“Within our religion, Christianity, it says for the wages of sin is death,” Ashley told NBC 4 in Los Angeles. “But also there is definitely forgiveness and mercy from Jesus himself.”

Asked by reporter Gordon Tokumatsu whether Christians can remain gay, Ashley flicked her hair and said, “Um, well ... ”
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/02/26/Miss_Beverly_Hills_Defends_Antigay_Statements/
 

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"Um, well..."

Awesome.

How can she be Miss Beverly Hills? Lauren Ashley? Doesn't seem Jewish or Persian (or a combo of the two), which is a prerequisite for living in BH.;)

Self-appointed?

What a winner.
 

leekohler

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"Um, well..."

Awesome.

How can she be Miss Beverly Hills? Lauren Ashley? Doesn't seem Jewish or Persian (or a combo of the two), which is a prerequisite for living in BH.;)

Self-appointed?

What a winner.
I'm wondering how, from the looks, she got into a beauty contest in the first place.

To quote a good friend, "That face would make a freight train take a dirt road." :)
 

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"Um, well..."

Awesome.

How can she be Miss Beverly Hills? Lauren Ashley? Doesn't seem Jewish or Persian (or a combo of the two), which is a prerequisite for living in BH.;)

Self-appointed?

What a winner.
I'm wondering how, from the looks, she got into a beauty contest in the first place.

To quote a good friend, "That face would make a freight train take a dirt road." :)
I thought this was about her position on gay marriage, not her ethnicity or her "looks" :confused:
 

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I thought this was about her position on gay marriage, not her ethnicity or her "looks" :confused:
I was making a joke, hence the ;)

:)

I live adjacent to BH, have family and friends that live there, and spend a lot of time there (and I'm Jewish). My comment/joke is based on my experiences there, nothing more. BH is known for its large Persian-Jewish community.


Self-appointed though? Maybe I should appoint myself the King of Westwood, and start giving news interviews too..... having a beauty pageant title doesn't make you an expert on everything....
 

KingYaba

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Jesus never spoke a word about homosexuality. Hhe was vocal about divorce but not gay marriage. But I wouldn't consider a beauty pageant queen to be an authority on the subject anyway. You should challenge her to find where Jesus said homosexuality is a bad thing and why it should be banned. Let her do some reading.
 

leekohler

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I thought this was about her position on gay marriage, not her ethnicity or her "looks" :confused:
Hey- do you have anything to add, or do you just wanna be critical of other posters and be the thought police? Yeah, it was a joke. Get over it. And you sit and wonder what we're complaining about...

Honestly, it's about both. Why is this person with views this repulsive given the spotlight? And how did she get there in the first place?
 

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Hey- do you have anything to add, or do you just wanna be critical of other posters? Yeah, it was a joke. Get over it. And you sit and wonder what we're complaining about...

Honestly, it's about both. Why is this person with views this repulsive given the spotlight? And how did she get there in the first place?
I did add something, I tried to get YOUR thread back on topic
I do know what you are complaining about... anyone that doesn't agree with you

What does her being "repulsive" have to do with her position on gay marriage?
Other than to have a laugh at her expense?
And besides, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Challenge her position on the issue instead of just laughing at her
 

leekohler

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I did add something, I tried to get YOUR thread back on topic
I do know what you are complaining about... anyone that doesn't agree with you

What does her being "repulsive" have to do with her position on gay marriage?
Other than to have a laugh at her expense?
And besides, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Challenge her position on the issue instead of just laughing at her

First of all, I didn't say she was repulsive, I said her views were. Don't misrepresent my words. I'm getting very tired of that around here.

Secondly, anyone who says gays should be killed deserves ridicule. How else do you challenge that? Seriously.

And if you don't like the thread, don't post. Better yet, report it. You're not a mod and it's not your business to tell me or anyone else to do anything.
 

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Challenge her position on the issue instead of just laughing at her
Fair point really. Kinda sad when talking points get derailed by bitchy comments about looks and stuff.

She seems to be a product of the church, and I bet there's a lot more church goers that share her point of view which is probably why she feels backed up enough to stand her ground against her publicist and not wholey retract what she said as many people under heat do. She probably has a lot of family and friends patting her on the back for saying the 'right' thing.

It's like arresting corner store drug dealers. Pointless, a new one will pop up the next day. You got to go to the source.

Yes, I just compared the church to drug dealing :D Bring it.
 

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First of all, I didn't say she was repulsive, I said her views were. Don't misrepresent my words. I'm getting very tired of that around here.

Secondly, anyone who says gays should be killed deserves ridicule. How else do you challenge that? Seriously.

And if you don't like the thread, don't post. Better yet, report it. You're not a mod and it's not your business to tell me or anyone else to do anything.
I don't think the thread needs reporting at all

But I think you have misrepresented HER words
You said, "anyone who says gays should be killed deserves ridicule"
I would agree, but she didn't say that, in fact, she said the opposite
She is saying in fact that the Bible shouldn't be taken literally on the killing part

Self-appointed Miss Beverly Hills, Lauren Ashley, spoke Thursday about the antigay comments she made to Fox News based on a passage from Leviticus that urges death for gays. The beauty queen, who has been disowned by her namesake city, said people should not take the Bible literally, but she still opposes marriage equality.
And no, I am not a Mod, just a friendly poster in the PRSI that happens to disagree with some things

How long before the sex tapes start to show up on TMZ? :cool:
Probably not long I am sure
 

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As Beverley Hills have distanced themselves from her, saying she's from Pasadena and stating that BH don't even hold beauty pageants, I hereby christen her Miss Tea Party :)

Doesn't do much to combat stereotypes though does she? ;)
 

rdowns

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The media will never learn. They just keep making 'stars' of these ****s. She'll get chewed up and spit out like Prejean was.


EDIT: What mactastic said. :D
 

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Oh, look, another notional prostitute wants to stake out some moral high ground. How cute.

I would agree, but she didn't say that, in fact, she said the opposite
She is saying in fact that the Bible shouldn't be taken literally on the killing part
I don't think people who stress how technically they should kill you but they elect not to for whatever reason should be given points for their ethics.

If a guy came up to you and said, "in my daddy's day, we would have dragged you down to the creek and nobody would have ever found you, but we don't do things that way anymore, so you have a real nice day now," would you thank him for his commitment to nonviolence?
 

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If a guy came up to you and said, "in my daddy's day, we would have dragged you down to the creek and nobody would have ever found you, but we don't do things that way anymore, so you have a real nice day now," would you thank him for his commitment to nonviolence?
Um... well...
 

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I don't think people who stress how technically they should kill you but they elect not to for whatever reason should be given points for their ethics.

If a guy came up to you and said, "in my daddy's day, we would have dragged you down to the creek and nobody would have ever found you, but we don't do things that way anymore, so you have a real nice day now," would you thank him for his commitment to nonviolence?
I am not attempting to defend her position, only the fair statement of it

I am just as disturbed by attention-whores who use a controversial statement to gain notoriety and $$ as I am by the media who makes a 15 minute celebrity out of someone who clearly has no idea what they are talking about.
 

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Yeah really. I bet this girl saw how Prejean was able to use her infamy to stand out from the crowd and make some money, and figured that since she shares the same controversial views, she would do the same.
You're a cynical one. I like you.

Oh, look, another notional prostitute wants to stake out some moral high ground. How cute.



I don't think people who stress how technically they should kill you but they elect not to for whatever reason should be given points for their ethics.

If a guy came up to you and said, "in my daddy's day, we would have dragged you down to the creek and nobody would have ever found you, but we don't do things that way anymore, so you have a real nice day now," would you thank him for his commitment to nonviolence?
"Why thank you for not killing me and hiding the body. What a nice guy all-around. Maybe I should buy a house by the body creek so that I can sit on the porch and think about all those nice people who haven't decided to kill me."
 

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I'm wondering how, from the looks, she got into a beauty contest in the first place.

To quote a good friend, "That face would make a freight train take a dirt road." :)
This is as close to saying she's repulsive as you can get without actually saying "She looks repulsive."

Her views are, of course, repulsive.
 

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I am not attempting to defend her position, only the fair statement of it
It was quoted in my OP. I think Gelfin's post illustrates perfectly exactly what she means. It's a thinly veiled way of saying something. It's saying it without saying it, and that's a load of crap.

And I'm wondering, are we no longer allowed to make jokes on MR? Is that what's going on now?