Missouri investigators: no evidence Planned Parenthood mishandled fetal tissue

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  1. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    Missouri, along with seven other states have found no evidence that state Planned Parenthood organizations mishandled fetal tissues.

    The state's attorney general, Chris Koster, released the results of the investigation on Monday which detailed practices at a St. Louis Planned Parenthood clinic, the only one in the state able to perform surgical abortions.

    From the New York Times:

    As NY Magazine notes:

     
  2. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Watched some of the PP hearings today on and off. What a complete and utter waste of time and money. As public opinion is way on the side of PP, Republicans tried everything they could to try and dampen it.
     
  3. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Makes you wish that Boehner waited until later this week to resign from Congress. Again, as I mentioned before, popcorn was needed for this, and in some cases, caramel corn - it was going to be that good.

    Next: how much recoil and backlash should the Republican POTUS candidates who supported defunding PP get? If it's blatantly obvious that there was no wrongdoing here, some have some serious backtracking to do, as well as Democrat candidates going on the offensive.

    BL.
     
  4. sodapop1 Suspended

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    As a taxpayer, everyone should be outraged that our government was forced to spend time and money investigating a staged video by an anti-abortion group. This is akin to filing a false police report and the government should be reimbursed by this group for all expenses incurred by the investigation. And I would not rule out criminal prosecution.
     
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    Wouldn't that anti-abortion group now be open to a defamation lawsuit by PP?

    BL.
     
  6. steve knight Suspended

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    they are already getting the legal treatment.
     
  7. sodapop1 Suspended

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    Sure that too, society could take this anti-abortion group to the cleaners.
     
  8. steve knight Suspended

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    kind of like Benghazi and Obamacare and the government shutdown. all that money wasted but few conservatives complained.
     
  9. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    Benghazi - Not irrelevant

    Obamacare -"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what."

    Government shutdown - I thought sequestration was created by Obama. :)

    Planned Parenthood - Released today.....
    “The Coalfire forensic analysis removes any doubt that the full length undercover videos released by Center for Medical Progress are authentic and have not been manipulated,”

    http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/29/forensic-analysis-planned-parenthood-videos-are-authentic/

    "Cecile Richards, speaking before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, claimed the videos were "deceptively edited" and "heavily doctored.
    Yet just minutes before the hearing started, a forensic analysis said the videos "are authentic and show no evidence of manipulation or editing."

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...enthood-videos-show-no-evidence-manipulation/
     
  10. hulugu thread starter macrumors 68000

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    It would be interesting to estimate the cost of all of these state and Congressional investigations. Of course, conservatives have never cared much about burning through tremendous piles of money for politically-tinged investigations.

    Kenneth Starr and other independent investigators burned through $39.8 million to investigate the Clinton administration, including the Whitewater land deal. Starr had nothing until Linda Tripp sold out Monica Lewinsky in pursuit of a book deal.
     
  11. thekev macrumors 604

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    The other things have been discussed enough times in other threads, and I kind of wish they wouldn't be rehashed every thread. I wonder what you expect or hope will come out of this if they don't find any evidence. The quote in your first link isn't necessarily evidence of anything illegal. It was sourced in earlier threads that they can recover costs. This just refers to retrieving a fetus as intact as possible or however it is required for research work. That line gets attention because it sounds callous. You can't really prosecute anyone for that reason.
     
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    There's a tendency to confuse two videos. There are the CMP videos that show Planned Parenthood employees talking about the use of fetal tissue. And, there's another video that combines an interview with footage from another source.

    Moreover, the forensic analyst said that videos "only omit footage irrelevant to the allegations such as bathroom breaks." I'm assuming they looked at time codes, but it's clear that the full "unedited" video is still missing some time.

    Additionally, and what many conservatives have difficulty understanding, is that while the CMP video shows Planned Parenthood employees discussing a terrible subject in a blasé manner, that's not evidence that the organization is mishandling fetal tissue.

    Instead, states have pursued the issue and found no evidence of wrong-doing.

    There's a reason that undercover videos are rarely accepted as evidence. Well, except in Congress.
     
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    People in private with difficult jobs talking about things in a blasé manner is standard and has nothing to do with their professionalism.
     
  14. zioxide macrumors 603

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    PP lawyers and the ACLU should sue the ****ing pants off every Republican liar for defamation, libel, and slander.

    You have to be a real lowlife piece of **** to make up lies like this to try to defund health care for women. More proof the Republicans want to return the US to the stone age. Christian Iran indeed.
     
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    Yep.

    Ted Cruz wants to waste $300 million a day shutting down the government to defund PP of a lousy $500 million.
     
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    Lawrence Walsh burnt through $47 million investing Ronald Reagan over Iran-Contra. Liberals have never cared much about burning through tremendous piles of money for politically-tinged investigations.
     
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    Ted Cruz just wants to shutdown the government. The PP nonsense is just the latest manufactured way to rile up the sky-fairy believing sheep.

    People like Cruz want the government eliminated and replaced by the church so they can force everyone to live under their sky-fairies "morals" and "beliefs".
     
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    You should hear physicians say during surgery...
     
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    No state anywhere should use tax $$$ to sponsor abortion.

    If you:

    (A) Can't keep your legs closed

    and

    (B) Can't even afford your own abortion

    then option (C) involves someone who knows how to handle a coathanger.
     
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    So how does your Deutschland handle it?

    (Bin da seit einer Weile weg, von daher - keine Ahnung, wie's geregelt ist)
     
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    Don't insult Iran. It's quite cosmopolitan.
     
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    I love unwanted children. They are the best, they are cheap to look after and there are never any issues.
     
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    Our tax dollars don't fund abortions, barring extreme circumstances such as rape. Remember, Planned Parenthood isn't just an abortion clinic. The vast majority of their work involves women's health, birth control, and reproductive medicine.
     
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    Eh, there are some nutters who might actually want that, but I doubt Cruz is one of them. He's just riling up the hornet's nest in the vain hope that it well resurrect his floundering Presidential bid.
     
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    That matter involved sending guided missiles to Iran to raise funds to fund an illegal insurgency in Latin America. That is precisely the sort of matter of critical national importance that should be investigated. A bad personal real estate investment and an office blow-job? Not so much.

    In fact your example simply goes to show what world-class a-holes Republicans really are.

    When I think of the challenges facing the United States and the world today; I really wonder what the Republicans are thinking. They seem to have no answers for anything, and they beat themselves into a white out fury over irrelevancies.

    Defunding Planned Parenthood won't improve the economy; lessen crime or drug abuse; or reduce the deficit. (Arguably it'll make all of those problems worse.) Whatever America's problems are right now - letting more Americans carry more guns more places won't solve them. Neither will building walls along our borders or rounding up hundreds of thousands of Mexicans, Canadians, Brits and Germans. Tearing up the Iran deal won't make anybody safer, least of all Israel.

    America has some serious challenges ahead of it. All of them can be met and mastered. But I have yet to hear a single Republican even talk about things like our crumbling infrastructure; income inequality; or dealing with climate change.
     

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