Mitt Romney Didn't Appear at NEA Convention. I Find That Insulting

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  1. guzhogi macrumors 68030

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    I just returned from the annual convention for the National Education Association (NEA) in Washington DC. Something I found insulting was the lack of an appearance from Mitt Romney. Regardless of his or anyone's feelings about unions, I found this as a slap in the face. Not only is the NEA the country's largest union at 3 million + members (and over 11,000 people in attendance at the convention), but we are all educators. Sure, the NEA has endorsed Obama, but there are many members of the NEA who would vote for Romney.

    I would have really appreciated to hear his views on public education. Although I'm a union member, I'm not one of those kool-aid drinking, mindless "the union can do no wrong", super-democratic union thugs the media tries to make us out to be. I want to hear all sides of the presidential election and make an informed choice.

    Joe Biden appeared live and President Obama phoned in to talk with us. So I feel like Mitt Romney basically slapped all of us in the face.
     
  2. citizenzen, Jul 7, 2012
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    I don't need to join the parade of straw men.

    Edit: I'm not talking about the OP's take ... just my own.
     
  3. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    He probably hasn't figured them out yet. It's interesting because you would think with someone running for President as long as he has been, that all his policies would have been written long ago. And yet, it seems like he just stepped into the fray and seems completely unprepared.

    You have to ask yourself, if he is this unprepared on things as a candidate, would he be any different as President? All evidence points to no. If he can't get it together after 6 years of running for office, when will he? Even other Republicans in his own party do not know what his position or plans are on some things. And that is not the sign of a good leader...or any leadership at all really.

    But he's good at riding on the back of a jet ski this week instead!!!
     
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    Knowing how much Romney bends to the far-right base, he probably thought it would be best to not associate himself with unions at all rather than understand them and try to figure out an actual stance.
     
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    True, but he could have spun it where he didn't even refer to us as union members but as educators, and speak about education itself. Whatever. I just like having as much information as possible from all possible sides before making a decision.
     
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    Optimistic thinking, but clearly not how things work in today's hyper polarized politics.

    Free exchange of ideas? Hah, yeah, right. Unfortunately you'll have to look elsewhere to educate yourself and make an informed decision.
     
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    He's probably angry that teachers unions have destroyed education in America as we throw more money down the tubes for worthless teachers we can't fire. I watched a documentary showing new york paying ****** teachers 100 million a year to sit around and not teach because they had obtained tenure and the process of firing was a circus. They called them rubber rooms.
     
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    He probably is still trying to figure out how to "fix" education in a way that allows him to fire half the teachers, move the rest of the education jobs overseas, and walk away with a huge profit.


    Really? That's what we call the Republican National Convention.
     
  9. TPadden macrumors 6502a

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    ....... a call would have been nice, perhaps the line was busy, how long was the president's call? :rolleyes:
     
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    Nice try. They had call-waiting. :p
     
  11. TPadden macrumors 6502a

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    Either way, the NEA was slapped in the face at least twice :D!
     
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    Wow, only 0.37% go to the convention. I bet most if not all are people that have some type of office position w/ the union.
     
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    ...... and the convention was in DC, convenient for phone calls from friends :cool: ......The President was in town all week but Thursday and some of Friday and the best he could do was call ....

    "The security procedures are such that I may have to ditch it as I did last year, so let me apologize in advance if something historic happens and I miss it." (SLAP) :)

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/07/02/nea-convention-2012-the-missing/

    The convention was dubbed by many an Obama rally:

    http://news.yahoo.com/gop-teachers-balk-obama-centric-nea-convention-074356972.html
     
  14. guzhogi, Jul 8, 2012
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    I agree, the unions sometimes protect **** teachers, and I wish there was an easier way of getting rid of them. However, I am also in favor of due process so that good teachers aren't fired for **** reasons.

    Considering that each school district local union has maybe 2-3 members of the staff at most elected to go to the conventions as voting delegates, that's not surprising. How many people go to the Republican or Democratic National Conventions compared to all registered Republicans/Democrats? And FYI: this NEA convention I went to is larger than both the RNC & DNC combined. There are more people at the NEA convention while the NEA has fewer members total, so that 0.37% is probably significantly higher than that of the RNC & DNC.


    I know, I'm kinda naïve. :p But in many ways, I'd rather be optimistic than be a more pessimistic person. Just remember: you miss all the shots you don't make. With an optimistic attitude, at least I have a chance of getting things done. If I have a more pessimistic attitude, I wouldn't even try.
     
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    The union wasn't well represented since about half of the members AREN'T working classroom teachers.

    Of the approx 3.2 million members: "We also finally got a count of how many NEA members are classroom teachers. I get asked this question a lot, but the union normally aggregates teachers with other certified professionals – guidance counselors, speech pathologists, specialists and the like. Today the delegates were told that about 1,441,000 NEA members are working classroom teachers." :apple:
     
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    Phone calls from friends? This is not the '70s You guys need to do satellite/video conference especially if you are that big. :p

    Ok, but they are Parties you are a Union & in Unions the 'strength' is in #. Seeing has I understand, that in some states like Washington the union makes all teachers pay a fee, even non-members makes me feel the NEA is more of a political union than anything...

    Since you guys are active NEA members and I don't know anything about the NEA, can you tell me what has the Union achieved for improvement of the school system?
     
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    Maybe Barack was calling from a strip club. lol

    Let's see if anyone runs with this.
     
  18. TPadden, Jul 8, 2012
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    I'm not in the NEA and didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night; but I WAS a forced member of another public sector union ...... :eek:
     
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    LOL - Why would Romney want to associate himself with those union thugs.

    These people are destroying the American education system and you think it is a slap in the face because someone doesn't want to support them?
     
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    He seems to have no trouble hobnobbing with banker thugs and political thugs.

    Just sayin'....

    Wait a minute...when did the Texas Board of Education enter into this topic?
     
  21. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Did you apply for the job?

    Or were you forced into that too?

    :rolleyes:
     
  22. TPadden macrumors 6502a

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    Loved the job but whether you joined the union or not the dues were deducted. I found the union an embarrassment and an impediment to doing the job. :eek:
     
  23. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    You said you were forced into it.

    But I'll bet you knew it was a union job and still applied for it.

    How is that being "forced"?
     
  24. TPadden macrumors 6502a

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    I'd say I was forced into joining the union NOT taking the job. If I took the job I was forced into joining the union ...... given the choice I wouldn"t have joined the union..... pretty simple "forced" concept :rolleyes:.

    Since you desire to discuss semantics: I find it interesting that both my union PORAC and the NEA both call themselves "Associations" not unions in their titles. :D
     
  25. ThisIsNotMe macrumors 68000

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    The Texas Board of Education supports charter schools, the NEA doesn't.
    That is all I need to know on the subject.
     

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