Monogamous marriage is a hold over of a by gone religious age.

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  1. DearthnVader macrumors regular

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    I mean really people should be able to enter into the legal contract of marriage with as many people at a time as they want. What right does the Government have to tell us who we can and can't marry.

    The whole idea of monogamous marriage comes from our Judeo Christian founding, it is rooted in the Bible. I mean there is supposed to be a separation of church and state in this country.

    Other religions and cultures allow for plural marriage, what about our freedom of religion.

    It's high time for the tyranny to stop.
     
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    At first, I agreed with you, but then I thought about the effort it'd take to do my taxes in a polygamous marriage, and suddenly got real religious.
     
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    LOL
     
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    Plus too many cultures would abuse it for suppressive purposes.
     
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    Possibly, yeah.

    I'm not against the idea from a moral standpoint. The problem is, western civilization has monogamous marriages so deeply ingrained within its fabric, from our social aspects, to government issues, that it's not something you could just change overnight without screwing up a billion and one things off to the side.
     
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    So you only support things principles like freedom of religion and the separation of church and State when it is in your interests to do so.
     
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    so? enter in legal contracts signed by lawyers and be as miserable or as happy as you wish, what's the problem?
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    you DON'T have to call your legal contracts "marriage", nothing is stopping you from practicing what you preach.
     
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    People deserve equal justice under law, everyone is entitled to the same equal standing under law, marriage, you can't carve out special rule, tax breaks, etc for monogamous peoples and not afford it to everyone who want's to enter into that same Government contract.
     
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    you are correct, but as said nothing is currently stopping you from entering legal binding contracts with others, you simply won't get the benefits from it other than the eternal hell you put yourself into :D
     
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    I think you should be able to marry as many people as you want, but only one of them can be the legal government one which gives you the tax benefits, etc. The others can be done as basic contracts between two people or ceremonial such as a church wedding.

    The reason for only one legal government marriage is because of the complexity of dealing with plural marriages when any sort of legal issue or figuring out tax deals.
     
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    Well you can name a legal executor, and the Government allows tax credits for more than one child, so how hard can it be.
     
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    It isn't so much that it's not in my interest, so much as something you can't just allow without first considering the broader picture.

    I would say make it merely ceremonial, but you'd still have to consider situations where you have your 15 kids living in the same house with you and your 15 wives. Issues of inheritance could become a legal hellhole for everyone involved if you were to die without writing a very, very specifically detailed will.
     
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    you can already claim the kids you support in your taxes & get credit for that.
     
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    I can't argue specifically against it, but I think that it would get get far too complicated to deal with on a broad scale, and thus legal marriage is between two people.

    I do not even begin to understand how tyranny applies. That's pretty far out there.
     
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    Laws would have to be written, I thought that's what we paid the Government for, no wait their too busy worrying about what pee parts you have so they can tell you what restroom to use, here in , NC.
     
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    the Tyranny is not giving credits for the kids AND the extra wives. :p
     
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    Not really. For one thing the bible has numerous instances of polygamy. Yes you could point out that that is in the Old Testament, but there is nothing definitive in the New Testament to contradict that. Plus Jews don’t follow the NT anyway!

    Another problem with this theory is that monogamy is commonly practiced in countries where Judeo-Christian religions have never been prevalent.
     
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    is monogamy really practiced? plenty are cheating on each other left & right, so yeah they are only married to one person, but many are being polyamorous sometimes with the spouses consent :eek:
     
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    Quite a few of them, actually. Think of the statutes required for the law to fairly encompass a man with 5 wives, each with husbands of their own concerning rights of taxes and inheritance. From a purely legal perspective, it's a massive cluster****.
     
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    Fornication—anything outside marriage between man and wife—is a sin that Christ condemned.

    It should be punished severely by long prison sentences or worse.
     
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    what is one of those wives then want an extra husband? why should HE get all the fun & her just 1/5 the sausage?
     
  22. DearthnVader thread starter macrumors regular

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    Only if they are you legal dependents, as defined by the tax code.

    What's complicated is keeping a relationship like that together. We're supposed to be free, not you're free as long as it doesn't complicate things for the Government. The Middle East, that's complicated, and our Government is all up in that.
     
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    it's funny you want the freedom granted by the GOVT :D
     
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    That's pretty much what I was addressing. Men and women both would be allowed to have as many husbands and wives as they want to be legal by current standards of law. So you could have 6 wives, who each have 20 husbands between them. You're but one sausage among many.

    How would you deal with that from a legal standpoint? Who gets what when someone dies? How do you handle taxes for this likely ever expanding marriage group? Would this group have a single joint bank account?
     
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    You are aware of the separation of church and State.
     

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