Moore (pun intended) on the climate battle

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by stubeeef, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. stubeeef macrumors 68030


    Aug 10, 2004
    Another "flat earth" guy-a founder at GreenPeace....

    An interesting insight, from Mr. Moore.
    from wiki.
    Looks like he's somewhat a heretic on a variety of issues inside greenpeace.
  2. Huntn macrumors P6


    May 5, 2008
    The Misty Mountains
    Interesting coming from a "protect the animals" kind of guy.
  3. citizenzen, Feb 28, 2014
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2014

    citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    Okay. But what does Ashton Kutcher have to say about it?

    Edit: a little about Moore from Greenpeace's website ...

  4. stubeeef thread starter macrumors 68030


    Aug 10, 2004
    Well it was clear to me he hadn't been there since 86 and i posted it.

    Imagine greenpeace attacking his character-wow so outside the lefts playbook, just wow.
    What would you say if a rightwing organization promoted a member or attacked an old comrade gone rogue? i.e., greenpeace may have their say but its not meaningful except to those defending greenpeace.
    Now if greenpeace wants to refute his points of contention, thats a different story.
  5. elistan macrumors 6502a

    Jun 30, 2007
    Denver/Boulder, CO
    just wow

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  6. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    It looked like they were trying to set the record straight, because the record was being commonly misrepresented.

    I did not see it any "attacking" of his character.

    Can you please point to to the specific part where they attack his character?

    I have no idea what I'd say. Perhaps you can cite a specific incident and I'd be happy to comment on it. Otherwise it's a overly vague hypothetical.

    Greenpeace addresses the issue of Climate Change here:, devoting many pages to the subject.

    I haven't had time to go over it, however, I would guess the organization embraces current scientific consensus on the matter, which in my mind would be the equivalent of a refutation of his points of contention.
  7. hulugu macrumors 68000


    Aug 13, 2003
    quae tangit perit Trump
    I agree, it's an important point of fact if Moore is representing himself as still part of Greenpeace to mitigate his lobbying.

    But, again, conservatives are grasping for straws. Certainly, there are some people who think the IPCC is flawed, even within those who believe climate change is real. This doesn't disprove the theory, or even the IPCC, instead it's a reaction to the difficulty of putting together such a wide-ranging document.

    We see similar fights in science—Stephen Hawking on black holes, the removal of Pluto as a planet, etc.—but only with climate change is this supposed to be a refutation of the entire scientific theory.

    Which would be weird, if it weren't so obviously partisan.
  8. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    Imagine if the sky was red, just wow.

    Is there a particular instance of this you'd like to cite?
  9. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    In my cited example, Greenpeace referred to him as "a paid spokesman".

    Perhaps that's the attacking of character that stubeef was referring to.

  10. Michael Goff macrumors G5

    Michael Goff

    Jul 5, 2012
    Attacking his character? They're just debunking some myths about him.
  11. .Andy macrumors 68030


    Jul 18, 2004
    The Mergui Archipelago
    Have you considered writing up this thread up as a scientific paper and submitting it for publication? It's an invaluable addition to human knowledge it would be a shame for your insights to reach a wider audience.
  12. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816


    Feb 11, 2010

    From the Independent article:

    Wow. So much misinformation in one little sentence.

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