More Americans trust Trump to tell them the truth than trust the media

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  1. DUCKofD3ATH Suspended

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    No surprises here:

    Slightly more voters find the White House more truthful than the media, according to the latest Fox News Poll.

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    The Fox poll last asked a similar question in June 2006. At that time, “news reporters” were more trusted than “government officials” by a 40-25 percent margin, with 26 percent saying neither.

    Almost all Republicans (92 percent) and most independents (74 percent) perceive coverage as tougher on Trump. Some Democrats agree: 42 percent say it’s been tougher, 34 percent easier, and 21 percent the same.​

    For those who'll say "Well it's a Fox poll, isn't it?", Gallup found similar feelings in their poll:

    WASHINGTON (Sinclair Broadcast Group) -- While many mainstream media outlets have cried foul over Donald Trump targeting outlets as "failing" or peddling "fake news," that sentiment is largely shared by a majority of Americans.

    In its annual confidence poll, Gallup found that Americans' trust in the mass media "to report the news fully, accurately and fairly" reached its lowest level in polling history, with only 32 percent saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. Trust in the establishment media did not begin with the contentious 2016 election and Donald Trump taking the stage, but after a steady decline over the past 20 years, it took its deepest dive yet, led by Republicans deep distrust of mass media.

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  2. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Shows how easily Trump supporters are misled. Nothing to see here folks. Their guliability is a given.

    There really is a sucker born every minute.
     
  3. uknowimright macrumors 6502a

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    I hope he tells them jumping off cliffs wont hurt
     
  4. pdqgp macrumors 68020

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    I'm surprised the Dems still trust the media after all the BS they were tossed last year through the election. Seems to me they already jumped off a cliff. They wouldn't have been so damn shell shocked about Clinton losing had the media fed them the truth.
     
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    They do provide some excellent entertainment :D
     
  6. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    If not the media to keep Trump honest, than who? You seem to want an unchecked dictator in power.
     
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    so long as the media themselves are honest, I'm good with that. He's already noted he can take a bad story and razzing if he is wrong, so even he's good with it.
     
  8. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    I don't necessarily know that it is a trust issue, it's more of people getting tired of the whining. Most media outlets cover their perceived doom of the week, usually consisting of Trump and his cabinet's personality or the one portion of a proposed plan or EO that doesn't agree with their ideology. They make it seem like the end of the world is moments away all the while you hear nothing about how everyone's 401K, IRA, etc. is growing or the jobs that are being created.
     
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    What happens when a huge personality on Fox like Smith goes ape**** on Trump? First I heard O'Reilly blast Trump, then Kelly, now Smith?

    What a train wreck Trump is and he is his own worst enemy. He has the White House and now he has to keep it but at this point, Trump is his own worst enemy. On the campaign trail, he was loyal to Fox and conservatives and there was a good understanding overall between them, but now he's losing guys like Smith who NEVER says something that strongly against any republicans.

    The last time some on Fox were down on a GOP politician it was right before Newt was self-destructed. I don't know if Fox supports Trump or secretly want their religious guy in Pence to somehow soon get the top job. Pence is a wet dream for Fox.

    Shocking.
     
  10. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    He never admits when he is wrong, so that's a red herring. Not genuine at all. If only he showed humility like that.

    Hey if you are okay with Russia being involved in our politics or incompetent people at the helm that's on you. The rest of us care about such things. As for jobs and 401k, my goodness, he's only been on the job 29 days. So much could happen in four years. So much could go wrong. It's a little premature to be counting those chickens. What goes up, can come down.
     
  11. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    It is this exact thought process why people are tired of hearing leftist views on TV, print, social media, etc. Heaven forbid Trump and his voters were correct, let's just focus on what could be negative.
     
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    One cannot stick their head in the sand and pretend negative things don't exist. Well, they can, but it's not wise. To be all Pollyanna after only 29 days is way beyond reasonable. Look at how Bush's second term ended up. Wiped out a lot of the gains. So go ahead and get all excited about your 401k, but do it with your eyes wide open, not closed shut.
     
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    the right even more so thinking trump is somehow honest.
     
  14. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    I believe eyes are wide open. Is everyone happy with every choice he has made, no, and you can't expect that with any president. You weigh the good and the bad and conclude, to which he is doing a great job keeping with his campaign promises. What the press does is borderline repression.
     
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    How can you say that. It's mainstream media reporting that Trump's no-transition plan is now messing up business because stuff's not getting done because nominees haven't been vetted or hired. So big outfits like Kindermorgan or Williams can't get their infernal pipelines approved, or energy utilities can't get their mergers approved all because Trump hasn't filed FERC commissioner chairs and the tiny-anyway agency is now actually short one commissioner of a quorum to do business. And that's just FERC, one little agency.

    It's one thing for Trump to speak of rolling back rules and stuff, but when there are actual laws in place, so legislation is required to dismantle an agency's brief or the agency itself,,,, that's different. Meanwhile the place should be open for business.

    That's not me saying that, or "fake news" outlets saying that in their politics sections, it's businesses going on record to mainstream media outlets that cover business. The natives that supposedly matter to Trump (or at least to a Republican government) are getting restless.

    Meanwhile this guy tweets and rants about fake news and witchhunts or whatever. Let him do his damn job. Where is his staff, where are his minders, whatever it takes to get him off the dime and focused on the work.

    The Fourth Estate worth its name is always going to have an adversarial position vis a vis government. That's their job. As far as trust goes, the people should not trust anyone who tries to delegitimize a free press while trying to consolidate power as --or for-- a strongman, which is what Donald Trump and some of his inner circle are clearly trying to do.

    Look at him: disrespects the press, disrespects the intel agencies, appoints managers ready to weaken the rules and the very worth of the agencies they will nominally "manage"... all in front of our noses. He alone can fix our problems. He alone defines the problems. One by one he dismantles checks and balances, sources of different ideas, different views of problems and solutions. Finally it's so simple, the problem is us, and he is the solution. This country needs to wake up its Congress before Trump converts us to something like the Dominican Republic in the times of Rafael Trujillo, or like Chile under General Pinochet. Ironically the USA had a hand in both of those guys coming to power, so it's not like there hasn't been a strong streak of admiration for strongmen in our past governments...

    I have no argument against a guy like Mattis, mind you. And I liked the idea of Harward if he'd taken the NSA job. But in all honesty I'd prefer civilians in those jobs; there's already good military input to NSC meetings with the chair of the joint chiefs of staff on board. Or we would have that input as long as Trump doesn't exclude him (along with the director of national intel) from the prinicpals list for regular meetings, as he was inclined to do and might try to do again sometime unless the American people and their representatives in Congress object loudly enough.

    Above all I want a free press that reports to us stuff like I just mentioned in that paragraph. Otherwise how are we to know that Trump might decide without benefit of military advice where we put boots on ground or planes into hostile airspace? If my nextgen are to fight a war, I like to know their generals are on board with it. Those guys didn't become generals by reading a briefing from Bannon.

    A free press is what stands between the people and a government's efforts to silence criticism of government. Trump says no no, just trust in him to tell us what is true and what is not. I say BS to that, let me read the WaPo or the NYT or the East Podunk 16-pager and make my own decisions on the worth of what they print.
     
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    Stocks are likely into another bubble.
     
  17. mudslag, Feb 17, 2017
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    What the title should be according to Fox, specially given that it's their poll.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ers-divided-over-trusting-trump-or-media.html

    Fox News Poll: Voters divided over trusting Trump or the media



    Some of the questions from the poll...


    Do you approve or disapprove of the job Donald Trump is doing as president? [IF APPROVE / DISAPPROVE: Is that strongly (approve/disapprove), or only somewhat?]

    48% APPROVE

    47% DISAPPROVE

    Strongly approve 35%

    Somewhat approve 13%

    Somewhat disapprove 5%

    Strongly disapprove 41%

    (Don’t know) 6%
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    Do you think President Trump should be more careful about what he says and how he says it or do you like that he speaks his mind?

    Be more careful 71%

    Like that he speaks his mind 28%

    (Don’t know) 1%
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    Who do you trust more to tell the public the truth -- the Trump administration or the reporters who cover the administration?

    Trump administration 45%

    Reporters 42%

    (Both) 10%

    (Neither) 1%
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    In general, which do you think is better for the country? If the news media:

    Cover the president aggressively 55%

    Give the president the benefit of the doubt 38%

    (Don’t know) 7%



    Link to poll
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2017/02/17/fox-news-poll-21717/
     
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    Quite ironic considering many Americans are armed in case the government attack them. Sounds messed up to me.
     
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    Little surprise. When Trump won the presidency despite the media literally portraying him as Hitler incarnate, I am not sure what credibility the media has after being proven so wrong.
     
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    Hitler won elections too...
     
  21. Abazigal macrumors 604

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    Which is besides the point. Up to the elections, the media practically vilified Trump and made it seem like he had no chance of winning the elections ever. And he did.

    So the real question is - what made every media outlet out there jump on the "bash Trump" bandwagon and completely get it so wrong?
     
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    Ok so you're blaming the media for getting their win percentage wrong? Well it's true. The media is innumerate.
     
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    https://stratechery.com/2016/fake-news/

    Consider reading this article. It encapsulates my points far more cogently than I ever can.

     
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    Results of the election were within the margin of error. Nobody said that Trump had not chance. Just that that chance was very small. If you remember right, the media reported that Trump could have a serious shot at winning the election after the judge reopened the investigation for Hillary's emails. Since that moment, Trump climbed both in vote-share and chance of winning the election. Again, this was reported time and time again on the so-called left-wing-fake-news-outlets.

    And sure, Trump did win the election. That does not suddenly legitimize his actions during the campaign. I'm glad that left-wing-fake-news-outlets are not snowflakes and not afraid to tell who Trump really is.
     
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    Because it genuinely seemed far fetched that the American people would elect a casino-owning reality TV star on his third marriage with no political experience.

    But both the media and the Hillary campaign underestimated how unhappy Middle America was with the status quo, and Trump's populist campaign resonated in the states that mattered.
     

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