More arrests in radical group ACORN

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  1. Wotan31 macrumors 6502

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    More voter registration fraud arrests from radical group ACORN.

    Some background reading here: http://www.aina.org/news/20080529155204.htm

    Article here.


     
  2. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    That "background" article is laughably bad and biased beyond belief.

    And since when does a few low-level employees falsifying data to justify their wages make a group "radical"? None of these false registrations even voted. You'd think if ACORN was so radical and wanted to commit voter fraud, they'd at least be smart enough to use false registrations instead of just let them sit idly by. And wait, ACORN is the one that turned these people in. If ACORN wants to commit voter fraud, they're not very good at it.

    This incident doesn't reflect on ACORN's agenda at all. If anything it shows that they have poor judgment when hiring people.
     
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    So what? Is this (a) surprising (b) news (c) supposed to be a vindication of something or other? :confused:
     
  4. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    I think if you read his "background" article, it seems like he's shooting for (c), although it's a rather pathetic attempt.
     
  5. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Ridiculous "background article"
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    description of ACORN as "radical"
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    not noticing even Fox says ACORN was ripped off
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    FAIL
     
  6. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I don't understand what is so hard about registering to vote in the first place that we need a 3rd party organization.
     
  7. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    It makes the most sense in the poorest of communities.
     
  8. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    "Empowering poor people to vote is a radical action"
    - Republican Person
     
  9. sysiphus macrumors 6502a

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    I'm sorry, but you don't need to "empower" people to vote. If it's not worth your trouble for half an hour at a library (do it electronically) on a Sunday afternoon, then you don't deserve anybody's concern if you're not registered. It's not like it takes a country club membership or something.
     
  10. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Why? Do poor communities not have a post office?
     
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    You can't do it electronically everywhere.
     
  12. sysiphus macrumors 6502a

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    Well, then, you have a form mailed to you, or pick one up and drop it in the mail when you're through. Still no sympathy here.
     
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    Its not available electronically here to my knowledge, it still only took 2 minutes of my time because I had changed addresses.
     
  14. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    Then groups like Acorn shouldn't be a problem at all. They're just wasting their time.
     
  15. sysiphus macrumors 6502a

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    Let's pretend for a second that it's as cut and dried as that. Only one problem: they're also wasting LOTS of our tax dollars.
     
  16. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    Making them pay for the stamp is disenfranchising, just like asking voters to show a picture ID in some states.
     
  17. sysiphus macrumors 6502a

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    This is one of those instances where I really hope you're kidding.
     
  18. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    Again, only if you deem encouraging people to participate in democracy is a waste of time.
     
  19. sysiphus macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, to this extent, I do. If people don't care enough to get off their butts to register, why should (yours) and my tax dollars be used to help them?
     
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    Half an hour? Where the hell do you vote? Did you not watch the news on election day? People stood there for 6+ hours all over the country just to vote.
     
  21. sysiphus macrumors 6502a

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    Well, personally, I voted by mail, as all Washingtonians do. However, we were discussing -registering- to vote, not voting itself. In theory, voter -registration- is the issue at hand re: ACORN.
     
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    What are stamps now? 47 cents or something? :rolleyes:
     
  23. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    Did acorn use tax money to recruit voters?
     
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    Surprising? Not since this has happened in 2007 and 2008. It appears that paying people per registered voter may not be such a good idea.
    News? Yes.
    Supposed to be a vindication of something? Only if you think that by attacking ACORN you've won something.

    Unfortunately, there are communities who don't really understand the process, nor know where to go. A 3rd-party organization helps enfranchise people who might otherwise have stayed home on election day and help them be engaged.

    ACORN also does several other projects, including lobbying to raise the minimum wage and fight predatory lending.

    ACORN is a non-profit. I don't believe tax dollars enter into this discussion at all.

    There has been some argument that ACORN received, through some complex arrangements financial support from the Stimulus packages, but this is unclear at best.
     
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    Well I plan ahead and bought a sizable quantity of the forever stamps. 41¢. ;)
     

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