More corruption from the Trump Administration

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    Is this guy saying that lobbyists influence politicians?
     
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    I read the article... didn't see anything illegal.
    This quote made me laugh out loud... "Congress does have an opportunity to limit the extent to which fossil fuel billionaires and D.C. lobbyists influences our government's policies."

    He expects Congress to do something about lobbyists?
    D or R, they all live and die by lobbyist "donations". They won't bite the hand that feeds them.
     
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    So, you just figured out that lobbying is legalized bribery?
     
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    As usual, people are missing the point. A lobbyist gave Perry an "action plan" and Perry, as director of the Department of Energy—you know the department he forgot he wanted to eliminate in 2012—is following that plan.

    Perry is not a member of Congress who needs to raise donations, he's a cabinet member. It's basic, obvious corruption.
     
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    Thank you. It's seems everything they do just gets a pass.
     
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    Yep, politically-connected technologists managed to get themselves a chunk of federal money from a successful investment project and the company failed. In part, the people running the company lied to the DOE about their company and the Obama administration was too quick to give them money.

    Of course, Republicans used the incident to attack the entire DOE green technology program, totally ignoring the fact that the DOE actually made money on its investments and that last year, the solar industry was larger than coal.

    Now, we've got oil and coal executives playing the same tricks, and rather be incensed that this is happening, Republicans are all "meh."
     
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    Thanks for the link to an opinion piece.
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    Really? Trump (Republicans) gets passes? All the left is doing is trying to create smoke. They have been praying for things to impeach him on (first time many of them have prayed :)). You wan't to talk about a pass. Look at H. Clinton. If she was anyone else she would be in jail. Yet any accusation is fact if it comes to Trump or the republicans.
     
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    Yes - it seems that Trump (specifically) gets a lot of free passes. "Mulligans" if you will. Right?

    Let me know when Trump testifies. Then we can talk about who should be in jail or not.
     
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    It was an opinion piece containing plenty of verifiable facts. It was correctly tagged as opinion primarily because the guy was explaining his own view of why he blew the whistle, and stating that he had used the cited facts to ground his decision.

    Generally speaking a newspaper will consider a piece an opinion piece if the article dwells at some length on the "why" of "who what where when how and why."

    Motives are part of a story but they can be harder to verify than the hard facts of a situation. So, straight reporting usually surrounds any references to "why" someone did something with words like "possibly" and "perhaps" and "likely"... but this guy was offering his own motives, so of course that would tag the piece as opinion. That does not negate the facts that were in the piece.
     
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    Cold hard fact.... unfortunately.

    But Trump putting guys like Ajit Pai as the head of the FCC (a paid shill for Sinclair broadcasting and a guy still loyal to Verizon) is a serious conflict of interest. Or putting Scott Pruitt to run the EPA, which was one of the agency's most hostile critics and a skeptic of climate change. Pruitt has also been at the forefront of lawsuits challenging EPA regulations on carbon emissions and water pollution! I mean, seriously?
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    Democrats are creating smoke? LOL. They don't have to. Trump is doing that all on his own.

    And I agree. Hillary should have gone to jail for all the classified documents she passed through unsecure servers. If I had done that while I was in the military, I'd be in jail!
     
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    If you used that metric all presidents and 99% of congress/senate would have been in a jail a week after their term ran out.

    Hence Ford pardoning Nixon 1st thing after been sworn in.
     
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    And on the Congressional and state side, we have ALEC writing legislation and legislatures passing it practically verbatim.

    Conservatives need to stop pretending this is normal lobbying. Lobbying has always been legislators writing bills, and lobbyists pushing for or against those bills or asking for modifications to them.

    This crap is just, “Here. Don’t read this, just make this an official law.” “Okay. Tomorrow soon enough?”
     
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    What's your point? This exercise in whataboutism isn't solving the problem-that people who set policy are doing so based on pleasing their financial backers rather than on what's good for the broader economy and country as a whole.
     
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